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« Reply #405 on: September 17, 2014, 08:39:PM »
I was surprised Grahame left. He was very determined in his support of Jeremy. 

He would ask for a source. Then claim the source was wrong after I provided it ! Everyone was wrong or lying, right up to the courts CCRC and experts.

At first he usually provided me with sources upon request. These became rarer after Scipio joined. Grahame's posts becoming more wild and aggressive as he tried to negate Scipio's impact. Eventually saying to me 'f__k you' after I asked for (another) source he knew he did not have.

But I enjoyed debating with him. And pleased he finally saw sense in the case.
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« Reply #406 on: September 17, 2014, 08:40:PM »
Has Graham changed his mind then?
I find that when people regularly use sarcasm, it's very difficult to know when they're being truthful or not. If you know what I mean!

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« Reply #407 on: September 17, 2014, 08:50:PM »
Hello Andrea no I don't think Grahame has changed his mind just think that is how his post reads or was he being sarcastic he was very cross with me and others for changing our stance.

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« Reply #408 on: September 17, 2014, 08:52:PM »
Adam bet you have missed Grahame the forum has don't think he thinks any differently now than when he joined.

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« Reply #409 on: September 17, 2014, 08:57:PM »
I find that when people regularly use sarcasm, it's very difficult to know when they're being truthful or not. If you know what I mean!

Yes, I think I get it. As also Susan points out, he was angry at people for changing their stance and left.

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« Reply #410 on: September 17, 2014, 09:02:PM »
Alias I guess you are right as he removed me from his Facebook page and I really liked Grahame he was honest and very humorous at times but did seem to get angry over some of us changing to guilty stance.

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« Reply #411 on: September 17, 2014, 09:09:PM »
Alias I guess you are right as he removed me from his Facebook page and I really liked Grahame he was honest and very humorous at times but did seem to get angry over some of us changing to guilty stance.
Yes, I remember him getting quite irate in one particular post, telling everyone to F off.  I did exactly that and ignored his subsequent posts.

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« Reply #412 on: September 17, 2014, 09:17:PM »
Alias I guess you are right as he removed me from his Facebook page and I really liked Grahame he was honest and very humorous at times but did seem to get angry over some of us changing to guilty stance.

That is sad.
I too miss Grahame.  :'(

Neil, Grahame has a temper -  some of us do!  :P

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« Reply #413 on: September 17, 2014, 09:31:PM »
Yes, I remember him getting quite irate in one particular post, telling everyone to F off.  I did exactly that and ignored his subsequent posts.

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« Reply #414 on: September 17, 2014, 09:31:PM »
What has this got to do with my post?  :o I believe this is about a "conversation" you have been having with Lookout after the post you quote, and not with me at all.
Are you trying to divert attention?

I should clarify, your discussion with Lookout about the phone calls is way after you included her in your exceptionally rude post aimed at me - it is from way back. Those two have nothing to do with one another.

You are the one who questioned how saying Nevill's call is absurd could be be considered an objective issue.  I explained how.

You have gone up against me in debate, lost those debates and your ego took a hit as a result and in a nutshell that is your real gripe regardless of how you would like to frame it.

You posted claims I proved were wrong such as that Sheila complained about being tired not insomnia.  It happened on a number of issues in a short period of time and rather than just accept you were wrong you tried to drag things out further in melodramatic fashion trying to find away to pretend you were somehow still right. 

Your real gripe is that I proved you wrong and you have less and less basis to claim to be on the fence you like to say you straddle so much. 

 

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« Reply #415 on: September 17, 2014, 09:38:PM »
You are the one who questioned how saying Nevill's call is absurd could be be considered an objective issue.  I explained how.

You have gone up against me in debate, lost those debates and your ego took a hit as a result and in a nutshell that is your real gripe regardless of how you would like to frame it.

You posted claims I proved were wrong such as that Sheila complained about being tired not insomnia.  It happened on a number of issues in a short period of time and rather than just accept you were wrong you tried to drag things out further in melodramatic fashion trying to find away to pretend you were somehow still right. 

Your real gripe is that I proved you wrong and you have less and less basis to claim to be on the fence you like to say you straddle so much.


D'ya know, I just BET that you're the type of guy who tells his wife that her a**e looks like the back end of an elephant if she asks if her bum looks big in something. You could say the same thing MUCH more kindly.

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« Reply #416 on: September 17, 2014, 09:57:PM »

D'ya know, I just BET that you're the type of guy who tells his wife that her a**e looks like the back end of an elephant if she asks if her bum looks big in something. You could say the same thing MUCH more kindly.

Hadn´t seen this - don´t read his posts (on ignore, mostly see snippets when quoted).

OK, scipio, since you keep bringing up old matters, where you claim you have "won", I will play along.

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You are the one who questioned how saying Nevill's call is absurd could be be considered an objective issue.  I explained how.

This I have never discussed with you - as usually you mix posters or contents up.
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You have gone up against me in debate, lost those debates and your ego took a hit as a result and in a nutshell that is your real gripe regardless of how you would like to frame it.


Did your ego take a hit when your doctor/lawyer friend (if he exists and isn´t just you, he answered awfully fast, but never mind) basically agreed with what I said about the blood-streams down Sheila´s arm - opposed to what you had claimed. In the process calling me "stubborn" because I didn´t agree with you?!

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You posted claims I proved were wrong such as that Sheila complained about being tired not insomnia.  It happened on a number of issues in a short period of time and rather than just accept you were wrong you tried to drag things out further in melodramatic fashion trying to find away to pretend you were somehow still right. 

No, I checked facts, and the conclusion was that the information posted on Jeremy´s official site is in fact not entirely correct. It stopped there.

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Your real gripe is that I proved you wrong and you have less and less basis to claim to be on the fence you like to say you straddle so much.

Wrong. My real gripe is your potty-mouth! I think you are obnoxious.
You cannot deny this: you are a self proclaimed shit-stirrer, and I have the proof. Which you know. I would like to post it again, but the mods remove it. Wonder why.

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« Reply #417 on: September 17, 2014, 10:00:PM »
You are the one who questioned how saying Nevill's call is absurd could be be considered an objective issue.  I explained how.

You have gone up against me in debate, lost those debates and your ego took a hit as a result and in a nutshell that is your real gripe regardless of how you would like to frame it.

You posted claims I proved were wrong such as that Sheila complained about being tired not insomnia.  It happened on a number of issues in a short period of time and rather than just accept you were wrong you tried to drag things out further in melodramatic fashion trying to find away to pretend you were somehow still right. 

Your real gripe is that I proved you wrong and you have less and less basis to claim to be on the fence you like to say you straddle so much.

Scipio, we are on agreement in relation to much of the Bamber case but I would ask you to put a bit of effort into losing your blunt approach. You are obviously a highly intelligent man and can surely understand that the bluntness is causing friction. It's easy to say you don't agree with someone without giving them an analysis of what you think they think about themselves. Just be a little more polite about your disagreements - please!
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Re: Jeremy Just An Ordinary Boy
« Reply #418 on: September 17, 2014, 10:02:PM »

D'ya know, I just BET that you're the type of guy who tells his wife that her a**e looks like the back end of an elephant if she asks if her bum looks big in something. You could say the same thing MUCH more kindly.

When women ask if they look fat in something it is a trick question and something best not answered period. On plenty of occasions though I have said look at that hideous clothing or the like and she has responded that she likes it and purchased things I mocked.

While not as bad as you think indeed I am blunt and could show more tact but my astrological sign is notorious and I would not want to disappoint those crazies who swear by astrology.
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« Reply #419 on: September 17, 2014, 10:08:PM »
Scipio, we are on agreement in relation to much of the Bamber case but I would ask you to put a bit of effort into losing your blunt approach. You are obviously a highly intelligent man and can surely understand that the bluntness is causing friction. It's easy to say you don't agree with someone without giving them an analysis of what you think they think about themselves. Just be a little more polite about your disagreements - please!

I think it is best if scipio puts me on ignore (I have him on ignore, doesn´t always work though) and stops writing posts aimed at me or about me. I will do the same the other way.
I don´t like him - (anybody surprised?  :P), and he doesn´t like me, so.
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