"Absurd" is in YOUR mind, NOT the mind of the poster who may have gone to great lengths to think it through from their own perspective.
Absurdity is an objective standard not a subjective one. That is the whole point I was making. People still make claims that others finger for absurdity despite knowing it will result in significant pushback so I don't see how people can fear posting things that might be wrong but at least not absurd.
When something rises to the level of absurdity I am hardly the only one taking such claims on and identifying it as such.
Certain people here do not like their views being challenged and perceive all attacks on their views as personal attacks. It is easy to just say my style makes people think that but the same thing is going on with others who don't post like me. It doesn't manner how courteous one is when telling someone they are wrong some will take it as a personal affront. There are a variety of reasons why people do such but the simple fact is that a number do and it is the problem. If it was just me causing theproblems then the only tension would be against me. I was not even around when several posters started snipping and I didn't even see all of it and still don't know what the heck happened in full.
Even though it keeps being said I call people stupid who did I ever call stupid? I challenge someone to find a psot where I did such. By establishing someone wrong such is viewed as me calling someone stupid. If that is how someone wants to take it there is little that can be done to change it.
I have only called select posters dishonest and on each occasion explained the manner in which they were dishonest and the issue upon which they were being dishonest.
If people want to seriously debate then they need to be prepared to not take it personally if they are told they are wrong or worse proved wrong. Otherwise it is not going to be healthy for them to keep taking part. If someone is just running around calling people names and not posting substantively such people should be gone because they are just trolls. There is no reason to take such person to heart to reason to get rid of them is they are just a worthless distraction. Jesters are funny for a while but then just become annoying.
I don't see complaints about jesters I see complaints by people who don't like their views challenged either because they have a vested emotional interest in the implications or take being proved wrong about anything a personal affront and hit to their ego. I think that is what causes the tension here and that it is just a scapegoat to try to blame harsh debating.
The only real solution is for people to gain enough confidence in themselves to realize that you can make mistakes and it doesn't lessen you for having made a mistake or somehow to find a way to step back and not invest so much emotion. The latter solution is probably harder than the former though either is not something that can isntantly come about.
Is there a time on this site that there was so many challenging Jeremy's innocence? It seems the turmoil is the greatest at the very time that the largest questioning of his innocence is taking place and I do not think that is a coincidence. The turmoil is corresponding to people being at odds with others in their beliefs. I wonder how much is also internal turmoil. Certain people who have decided they will beleive what they feel like believing regardless of the facts and evidence seem to not have any problem.
It seems that certain people who are having their faith shaken are the ones having the most problems and some of it clearly is internal as they have to face themselves.
