British Hostage David Haines

[guest154]

Seems as ISIS has beheaded British Hostage David Haines after their threat to carry out the disgusting act, they have a second British hostage who they are saying is next.

Such an awful thing to go through.

Should be hitting the news shortly.

[guest154]

Alan Henning named as the next hostage to be beheaded is their demands aren't met. Alan Henning is British.


What would you response be to such evil?

Whilst I was on Holiday I saw American news host Bill O'Reilly say "bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again."

Hard to disagree.

[Patti]

Alan Henning named as the next hostage to be beheaded is their demands aren't met. Alan Henning is British.


What would you response be to such evil?

Whilst I was on Holiday I saw American news host Bill O'Reilly say "bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again."

Hard to disagree.

Mat its not very often I discuss politics, but bombing must be the last resort in my opinion, but on saying that we must never ever let our guard down and must do everything in our power to get this chap released and bombing them wont make an apathe of difference to these barbaric people, that's if I can call them people. 

Its OK for us to sit here in our armchairs and say "Yes lets bomb them" but there will always be the Innocent folk that will die as a consequence of such actions

But, I equally believe that we should stand firm and nip this in the bud before it escalates any further. Calling this action humanitarian is good for mankind.

[lookout]

Alan Henning named as the next hostage to be beheaded is their demands aren't met. Alan Henning is British.


What would you response be to such evil?

Whilst I was on Holiday I saw American news host Bill O'Reilly say "bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again."

Hard to disagree.

I would agree.

[Jane]

Alan Henning named as the next hostage to be beheaded is their demands aren't met. Alan Henning is British.


What would you response be to such evil?

Whilst I was on Holiday I saw American news host Bill O'Reilly say "bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again."

Hard to disagree.

Mat, I can fully understand that sort of emotional response. I remain convinced that the death sentence was wrong -I never saw it as a deterrent, just the punishment attributed to a certain crime- but I STILL say of certain criminals, ie, Brady, Hindley, the Wests and Huntley, THEY SHOULD HANG.

[Caroline]

Alan Henning named as the next hostage to be beheaded is their demands aren't met. Alan Henning is British.


What would you response be to such evil?

Whilst I was on Holiday I saw American news host Bill O'Reilly say "bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again."

Hard to disagree.

They are vile, disgusting excuses for human beings, who hide behind religion in order to excuse their violent nature, They are cowards and deserve to die screaming - I hate the DP but it's too good for them. I can't express in words how much I despise these creeps but I don't agree with bombing UNLESS it could be guaranteed that ordinary decent people wouldn't be caught up in the cross fire - enough innocent people have died.

[mertol22]

The world must act and fast  vermin like this will sweep over the globe , time to  use of chemical weapons should bring things to a close.

[Roch]

I dont wish to seem callous or disrespectful or to cause offence.  But I find the whole ISIS thing very fishy.  And that includes these video'd incidents of 'beheadings'. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29201317

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fiction-of-fighting-the-islamic-state-an-entity-created-and-financed-by-the-u-s-and-saudi-arabia/5398833

[mertol22]

I dont wish to seem callous or disrespectful or to cause offence.  But I find the whole ISIS thing very fishy.  And that includes these video'd incidents of 'beheadings'. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29201317

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fiction-of-fighting-the-islamic-state-an-entity-created-and-financed-by-the-u-s-and-saudi-arabia/5398833

Roch  some of my workmates are ex Army  some say its all to get our troops on the ground there today in the paper doubts are now raised if any such crimes have been committed at all a few weeks carpet bombing and they may well have had enough there are over 30,000 of this scum to take out.

[Caroline]

I dont wish to seem callous or disrespectful or to cause offence.  But I find the whole ISIS thing very fishy.  And that includes these video'd incidents of 'beheadings'. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29201317

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fiction-of-fighting-the-islamic-state-an-entity-created-and-financed-by-the-u-s-and-saudi-arabia/5398833

Hi Roch, so where are the victims?

[No-Bits]

I dont wish to seem callous or disrespectful or to cause offence.  But I find the whole ISIS thing very fishy.  And that includes these video'd incidents of 'beheadings'. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29201317

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fiction-of-fighting-the-islamic-state-an-entity-created-and-financed-by-the-u-s-and-saudi-arabia/5398833

I think it's very difficult to make such comments without appearing tactless. (I know that isn't your intention though).

Although I don't quite understand what you are actually suggesting? 

[Roch]

Hi Roch, so where are the victims?

Hi Caroline, I have no idea and I suppose it would depend upon exactly who was behind the incidents if there are indeed hoaxes.  I'm not saying that they definitely are.  It's just that personally, at this stage, I dont feel confident that they definately are not. 

[Roch]

I think it's very difficult to make such comments without appearing tactless. (I know that isn't your intention though).

Although I don't quite understand what you are actually suggesting? 

Thanks for understanding that it isn't my intention.  I'm concerned that (some) terrorist events as portrayed in mainstream media could potentially be staged in order to manipulate public opinion.  It is possible that some security services could have involvement in this manipulation.

Now it could be that these particular nasty incidents we are discussing are genuine acts of savagery committed by ISIS or whatever their current name is.   I accept that these men could have been genuinely held as known hostages for a period of time and then killed by ISIS.

There is no way for me to know for definite either way from what I have seen.  But what I am no longer prepared to do is to accept such things (as portrayed in media) without questioning or scepticism. 

[maggie]

Thanks for understanding that it isn't my intention.  I'm concerned that (some) terrorist events as portrayed in mainstream media could potentially be staged in order to manipulate public opinion.  It is possible that some security services could have involvement in this manipulation.

Now it could be that these particular nasty incidents we are discussing are genuine acts of savagery committed by ISIS or whatever their current name is.   I accept that these men could have been genuinely held as known hostages for a period of time and then killed by ISIS.
There is no way for me to know for definite either way from what I have seen.  But what I am no longer prepared to do is to accept such things (as portrayed in media) without questioning or
scepticism.

I agree Roch, I don't think it's insensitive to have an open mind and doesn't mean the tragedy of what happened is in any way diminished but the men in grey suits have their own agenda and it's good to be aware of it. Imo

[No-Bits]

Thanks for understanding that it isn't my intention.  I'm concerned that (some) terrorist events as portrayed in mainstream media could potentially be staged in order to manipulate public opinion.  It is possible that some security services could have involvement in this manipulation.

Now it could be that these particular nasty incidents we are discussing are genuine acts of savagery committed by ISIS or whatever their current name is.   I accept that these men could have been genuinely held as known hostages for a period of time and then killed by ISIS.

There is no way for me to know for definite either way from what I have seen.  But what I am no longer prepared to do is to accept such things (as portrayed in media) without questioning or scepticism.

I understand your dilemma, although it's a fine line between scepticism and paranoia.

I guess it can be a case of believing that one action was politically orchestrated (The First Iraq War/Operation Desert Storm perhaps), therefore it is possible, or even likely in your view that history would repeat itself.

The difficulty comes when there are 10 genuine causes and one manufactured cause (or whatever numbers you want to use), how do you differentiate.

Personally I don't have the same concerns, but perhaps that would be different if I felt it affected me or my family in some way. 

It's an interesting subject, but maybe not one with many answers?