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Offline JackiePreece

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The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:02:PM »
In the case of the Guildford Four evidence was maliciously witheld by the authorities which later led to their acquittal

If that evidence had been destroyed by the authorities in the same way evidence was destroyed in the JB case no doubt they would still be in prison

Skip and Ads believe the authorities were right to destroy evidence in the JB case
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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 08:04:PM »
very true they just gone to court so they can destrot evedence in the case of kevin nunn.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 08:12:PM »
In the case of the Guildford Four evidence was maliciously witheld by the authorities which later led to their acquittal

If that evidence had been destroyed by the authorities in the same way evidence was destroyed in the JB case no doubt they would still be in prison

Skip and Ads believe the authorities were right to destroy evidence in the JB case

Evidence wasn't withheld, evidence was fabricated by police.  They doctored the statement of on eo fhte 4.

I have not stated anything about the destruction being proper.  It was on the contrary done against police rules but by someone unaware of the ongoing appeal and thus no evidence the destruction was malicious.

I said the evidence that was destoyed would not have helped Jeremy. There was nothing destroyed that could have been tested to prove his innocence.  The main gripe by the defense was that June's blood sample had been destroyed so they could not get her DNA but Pam's DNA was used.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 09:12:PM »
very true they just gone to court so they can destrot evedence in the case of kevin nunn.


Nug that case will make massive headlines soon
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 09:13:PM »
will it whys is that or maybe we should discuss it in private.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 09:25:PM »
I have been reading lots on twitter
Most people believe it's an unsafe conviction
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 09:28:PM »
everyone i know thinks its an unsafe conviction even the people who think hes guilty admit the convictions unsafe.

but that does not neccasrly mean it will headlines.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 09:37:PM »
I have a feeling it will and I believe what happens will make a difference to conviction of Jeremy Bamber
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 09:40:PM »
well look at the micheal stone conviction now that's got to be one of the most unsafe convictions in history but it rarely makes the headlines.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 10:52:PM »
Was Michael Stone the man convicted of the Russell family murders? I'm not convinced of his guilt at all.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2014, 11:06:PM »
Yes Tyler I am not convinced either
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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 11:07:PM »
Taken from the OS

More evidence has been discovered and is being worked on daily by Jeremy, his legal team and a huge raft of professionals from a range of sectors – more on that in the coming weeks and months.

The biggest fight for the Campaign, however, is against those who continually withhold even more information! There are still many, many crime scene photos, documents, statements, transcripts, Police notebooks and radio recordings, telephone calls among others being withheld – a lot of it under Public Interest Immunity. I’d ask all of you who believe Jeremy Bamber to be guilty to answer me one question:

If Jeremy Bamber is unequivocally guilty and an ‘evil’ man – why would such a huge, huge amount of evidence that would, seemingly, support that guilt still be hidden under PPI? Why, if nothing needs to be hidden, is stuff still not being disclosed?



Check out a couple of these notes. This one is from the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC). They actually question whether or not they can adequately review the case of Bamber when so much key evidence was destroyed – despite the fact that a Court Order had demanded it be preserved.

Doesn’t that seem odd?


How about this one? Here’s a document that shows that a number of years ago, before such evidence was illegally destroyed, an order existed that demanded the Home Office disclose material in the case of Jeremy Bamber.  That disclosure never did come.

Why didn’t it? Why was the evidence destroyed when strict orders were in place for its preservation?  Why is other evidence that would surely – in the eyes of those who see Bamber to be guilty – prove to be the final nail in his coffin, still being hidden?

We ask the question. Maybe you all could, too. As the visitor who got in touch put it...“If you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear...”
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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 11:08:PM »
The other document
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 11:23:PM »
Was Michael Stone the man convicted of the Russell family murders? I'm not convinced of his guilt at all.

yes he was convicted purely on the uncorroborated word of a junkie.

he looked nothing like the e fit of the suspect

this junkie later had gbh charged droped after agreing to give evedence.

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Re: The Guildford Four and Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2014, 01:18:PM »
 
Quote: Quashing of the Guildford verdict
In 1989, a detective looking at the case found typed notes from Patrick Armstrong's police interviews, which had been heavily edited. Deletions and additions had been made, and the notes had been rearranged. These notes, and their amendments, were consistent with hand-written and typed notes presented at the trial, which suggested that the hand-written notes were made after the interviews had been conducted. This implied that the police had manipulated the notes to fit with the case they wanted to present. unquote.


What case does that remind you of ?
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