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Offline Adam

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Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« on: September 09, 2014, 03:53:AM »
Jeremy's supporters often criticise Julie for not going to the police straight away.

There are lots of reasons why she approached the police a month later-


She was Jeremy's girlfriend.

She loved Jeremy and said she was under his spell.

She was in shock.

She was afraid of what Jeremy may do if he found out.

She tried to deny it to herself that the man she loved was involved.

Jeremy had said that he had paid MM £2,000 to commit the massacre. Julie said she knew Jeremy did not have this money available. So she would have clung to the possibility that Jeremy was making false boasts. 

She was 20 years old. We all make wrong decisions when so young. 

Jeremy had said he was 'watertight' and it was an 'open and shut case'. He said Julie would not be believed.

She was afraid she would be implicating herself. Being aware of his hatred and resentment towards his family,  and previous plans.

While still in shock, she gave a statement early on. So was afraid that changing her statement days or weeks later may put her in trouble.

She was afraid she would not be believed. Making herself look stupid and getting in trouble with the police for making false claims.

She was caught in the eye of a hurricane. Police,  relatives and the media always around, funerals to attend. Jeremy getting police cars to pick her up, then whisking her off to Amsterdam the weekend after the massacre. 

She had no one to speak to at first. Being with Jeremy most of the time after the massacre. She did not want to attend the funeral or continuously go around with Jeremy & Brett. But was persuaded to by Jeremy.

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It is true she approached the police, (via Liz Rimmington) after they had spilt up. After finally getting to speak to other people she trusted.  She was hardly likely to approach the police while still Jeremy's girlfriend, was she ?

Jeremy said the relationship had been in decline for six months prior to the massacre. They were both young and living miles away from each other.  The massacre probably speeded up the ending of the relationship by a few weeks.  After Julie had come to terms with the massacre and cleared her head.

It is not conclusive about who jilted who. Although Jeremy has always weakly said Julie spoke to the police and testified because he jilted her. But he has never said scorned women are just as likely to tell the truth.

Speaking to the police a month later seems quite normal to me (see above). Making these claims months of years later, after moving in with or marrying Jeremy would have looked much worse.

She was brave in approaching the police. Jeremy had not been arrested and the silencer evidence had not come back from the lab. The police could have laughed her out of the station. Or charged her with wasting police time. Or both.







« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 07:02:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 05:18:PM »
Julie did not wait a month she spoke to police on the day of the murders, she simply didn't tell them everything she knew.  After police dragged her in and told her that Liz Rimington told the what she told Liz about the murders then she came clean to police.  She didn't go to police they grabbed her.

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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 06:00:PM »
Adam

amongst a lot of things in your post that I d not believe are correct - this statement I find quite strange.

"After Julie had come to terms with the massacre and cleared her head. "

How could anyone ever come to terms with what happened? It would affect you for the rest of your life.

Also in her statements ( if you believe them )  when talking about the past she does say that she did know he meant it when talking about killing his parents. And then she said on the night she knew he had done it?

So I don't get your post at all. So I am sorry if Jeremy is guilty and all of her statements are true she should have said something immediately. And I can not think of one reason why she would not do so.

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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 06:15:PM »
Julie did not wait a month she spoke to police on the day of the murders, she simply didn't tell them everything she knew.  After police dragged her in and told her that Liz Rimington told the what she told Liz about the murders then she came clean to police.  She didn't go to police they grabbed her.

Thread started here:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5792.msg256748.html#msg256748

Yes she did speak to the police on day one. After Jeremy got a police car to whisk her over. But did not tell them anything worthwhile.

Please provide the source that she was dragged into the police station. The police had nothing on her.

I have already provided the source that Liz Rimmington rang Stan Jones. Where was Julie ? In the room with Liz.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 06:44:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 06:17:PM »
Stan Jones was at home when he received a call from someone at Witham Police station. It was Liz Rimmington -

Liz ? (SJ).

Hello

Have you got Julie with you ?

Yes.

Is it about the Bamber case ?

Yes.

Is she making allegations ?

Yes

I will be right over.


Julie said to SJ straight away she just couldn't live with Jeremy's secret anymore. She had tried to deny the truth. But now wanted the truth to come out.

As everyone knows, Julie had no reason to speak to the police. They had nothing on her.

Posted on Sunday. Scipio must have missed it. Source Wilkes's acclaimed book. Scipio must have not read it.
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 06:19:PM »
Adam

amongst a lot of things in your post that I d not believe are correct - this statement I find quite strange.

"After Julie had come to terms with the massacre and cleared her head. "

How could anyone ever come to terms with what happened? It would affect you for the rest of your life.

Also in her statements ( if you believe them )  when talking about the past she does say that she did know he meant it when talking about killing his parents. And then she said on the night she knew he had done it?

So I don't get your post at all. So I am sorry if Jeremy is guilty and all of her statements are true she should have said something immediately. And I can not think of one reason why she would not do so.

Yes. Cleared her head and got around the fact that her lover was a beast.
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 06:22:PM »
come to terms with - are the words I find strange.

this is a real life crime - not a computer game.

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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 06:28:PM »
come to terms with - are the words I find strange.

this is a real life crime - not a computer game.

Not sure what you're referring to Jansus?
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 06:29:PM »
adams first post - he said Julie came clean after she cleared her head and came to terms with the massacre.

Makes it sound like a stroll down the shops.

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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 06:38:PM »
adams first post - he said Julie came clean after she cleared her head and came to terms with the massacre.

Makes it sound like a stroll down the shops.

You have to come to terms with bad things that happen in life. Even a massacre.

Anyway this thread is showing why Julie did not say anything on day one. For the reasons in the thread post. There are 12 reasons.

Saying what she knew 30 days later was much more realistic in the situation she found herself in.
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 06:43:PM »
So if a really good loyal friend of yours said he was going to kill someone - and then he did - then you would not tell the police?


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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 06:46:PM »
So if a really good loyal friend of yours said he was going to kill someone - and then he did - then you would not tell the police?

I would tell the police.

Beforehand if I believed he was serious ( Julie didn't).

Julie and Jeremy were not 'good loyal friends'. Anyway Julie did tell the police. And testified.
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 06:50:PM »
I would tell the police.

Beforehand if I believed he was serious ( Julie didn't).

Julie and Jeremy were not 'good loyal friends'. Anyway Julie did tell the police. And testified.
in parts of her statements she did say she knew he meant it - and asked him to stop talking about it because it upset her  - so she did think he was serious at times.

So you think Love was the excuse although you think the relationship was on the decline?


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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 06:55:PM »
in parts of her statements she did say she knew he meant it - and asked him to stop talking about it because it upset her  - so she did think he was serious at times.

So you think Love was the excuse although you think the relationship was on the decline?

Jeremy said it was in decline for six months leading up to the massacre. This is backed up by the fact that they were both young, living miles away from each other and did spilt up soon after the massacre.

Love is one reason for not speaking straight away,  along with several others I mentioned.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 07:04:PM by Adam »
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Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 07:15:PM »
Jeremy's supporters often criticise Julie for not going to the police straight away.

There are lots of reasons why she approached the police a month later-

His supporters are not the only ones who criticize her.

She told police it was a combination of loving Jeremy so not wanting him to be in trouble and fearing the hitman would hurt her that caused her to remain silent for so long.

Explaining her actions in no way excuses them.  She was wrong and almost helped him get away with the crimes.  Had she spoken sooner police would have done a more thorough job from the outset.
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