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Offline lookout

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« Reply #735 on: October 16, 2014, 07:16:PM »
Where is the statement located - the forum or somewhere else?






I've been trying to find it. It's actually on this forum from 2011,but I can't remember the thread title that I did a search on,but I know it wasn't McDonnell. I was searching something else and that about McDonnell happened to come up.

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« Reply #736 on: October 16, 2014, 09:15:PM »
Of course if there were blood on the "other" silencer on the other gun then the defence could have argued that Sheila could have used that gun (if it was the same type of gun of course) to shoot her parents then used the accepted murder weapon to kill herself?

He claimed the weapon found in the other room was the weapon with Sheila's blood thus was the  weapon used to kill her.  He claimed the rifle dumped on Sheila was staged and not the one used to kill her.  The assessment the gun on her was staged was related to the photos he saw but also could have been influenced by his erreonous belief a different gun was the murder weapon.  So he woudl need to render a whole new assessment based on the actual facts.





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« Reply #737 on: October 17, 2014, 12:20:AM »
Her leg doesn't look as if it has been moved, but what would be the point of moving it a couple of centimeters?
It's been moved by several inches, not just a fraction of an inch.

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« Reply #738 on: October 17, 2014, 02:17:AM »
It's been moved by several inches, not just a fraction of an inch.

Only in your opinion. You haven't even commented on the angle of the shot which is quite obviously different given the view of the bible in both shots. You also haven't commented on how a leg moved several inches (in your opinion) makes Jeremy innocent? 
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« Reply #739 on: October 17, 2014, 07:26:PM »
What I can see having been moved is Sheila´s lower arm and hand and the bible, the rest is due to different angles of the photographs. In my opinion.


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« Reply #740 on: October 17, 2014, 07:32:PM »
 I rather feel that Sheila wouldn't have been found in such a serene position,barely touching the rifle,,if she'd shot herself. She'd have been left clutching/gripping  it with her hands stiffened around the rifle if she'd been dead for hours. It just doesn't sit right that someone should look so " relaxed ".

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« Reply #741 on: October 18, 2014, 09:31:AM »
A team of forensic experts working for the defence spent a day at WHF.

Surely they checked the windows.
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« Reply #742 on: October 18, 2014, 09:45:AM »
They came too late. AE had washed the blood from the sill/s. ::)

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« Reply #743 on: October 18, 2014, 09:47:AM »
They came too late. AE had washed the blood from the sill/s. ::)

To test if there was a lockable from outside window.
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« Reply #744 on: October 18, 2014, 09:50:AM »
To test if there was a lockable from outside window.





They probably did,but would never have admitted that they were self-locking.

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« Reply #745 on: October 18, 2014, 10:32:AM »
Prosecutor Arlidge in his opening speech said about the window -

The window was shut, but the catch was not secured.

Scratch marks had been put on the window after the decorators had painted the window. They matched the marks the found hacksaw blade would make.

An experts conclusion is that the found hacksaw blade had been used to force open the window. Probably prior to the massacre night.
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« Reply #746 on: October 18, 2014, 10:36:AM »
Arlidge continued -

Jeremy had told Julie Mugford he had found a way of getting out of WHF undetected. Leaving through a kitchen window which would appear to have been shut from inside due to the design of the catch.
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« Reply #747 on: October 18, 2014, 11:33:AM »
Prosecutor Arlidge in his opening speech said about the window -

The window was shut, but the catch was not secured.

Scratch marks had been put on the window after the decorators had painted the window. They matched the marks the found hacksaw blade would make.

An experts conclusion is that the found hacksaw blade had been used to force open the window. Probably prior to the massacre night.






Hacksaw blade-------------red herring
Phone hidden----------------red herring.
Silencer---------red herring.

Any more ?

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« Reply #748 on: October 18, 2014, 11:36:AM »





Hacksaw blade-------------red herring
Phone hidden----------------red herring.
Silencer---------red herring.

Any more ?

Thank you for clarifying everything Lookout.
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« Reply #749 on: October 18, 2014, 11:53:AM »
 You're welcome,Adam. Any time. ;D