A Call To Essex Police From Neville? - The poll

[Adam]

Hello Adam Colin in his book said Sheila knew nothing about guns.  His words not mine.

Thank you. That's it then.

There is no way she could have reloaded. Or been so accurate.

And there is no way Neville would be so scared. It was not a powerful rifle which was being held by a novice.

[Mr. Gee]

Lomax's book is very biased.

Just go by Jeremy's court testimony - 'Sheila had limited experience with guns'.

I found that Scott Lomax was a very fair and thorough investigative journalist who has several books under his belt. When I spoke to him I found him to be a very upright and honest man.

[Adam]

If Neville was so scared of a novice holding a not very powerful gun, why put his son in danger ?

Jeremy said to the police 'Sheila would not be pleased to see him'.

[Jane]

Thank you. That's it then.

There is no way she could have reloaded. Or been so accurate.

And there is no way Neville would be so scared. It was not a powerful rifle which was being held by a novice.

Sorry Adam, IMO that theory doesn't equate. I'd be far more concerned if the person holding the gun didn't know what they were doing. The weapon's power is irrelevant as what comes out of the business end is still going to do damage to something OR someone.

[Adam]

Sorry Adam, IMO that theory doesn't equate. I'd be far more concerned if the person holding the gun didn't know what they were doing. The weapon's power is irrelevant as what comes out of the business end is still going to do damage to something OR someone.

Best to phone Jeremy and the police than tackle Sheila.

[Mr. Gee]

If Neville was so scared of a novice holding a not very powerful gun, why put his son in danger ?

Jeremy said to the police 'Sheila would not be pleased to see him'.

Well we don't actually know if he was scared or not do we, because he isn't here to tell us. But when someone pointed and shot a "not very powerful" weapon at me I can inform you that I wasn't actually staying around to discover as to whether I was scared or not. I hotfooted it out of there soas not to be his target again. It's all very well talking about being brave and not scared of someone holding even an airgun and pointing it at you at this distance. But I can tell you from personal experience that there is a distinct feeling of helplessness in such a situation.

[Adam]

Well we don't actually know if he was scared or not do we, because he isn't here to tell us. But when someone pointed and shot a "not very powerful" weapon at me I can inform you that I wasn't actually staying around to discover as to whether I was scared or not. I hotfooted it out of there soas not to be his target again. It's all very well talking about being brave and not scared of someone holding even an airgun and pointing it at you at this distance. But I can tell you from personal experience that there is a distinct feeling of helplessness in such a situation.

Sheila must have been having a coffee break when Neville phoned Jeremy and the police. June still sleeping. Zzzz

[Mr. Gee]

Sheila must have been having a coffee break when Neville phoned Jeremy and the police. June still sleeping. Zzzz

Adam. Give up making the conjectures. Your imagination is not the extent of possibilities in this case. We just don't know, so it is pointless making any kind of suggestion.

[Jane]

Best to phone Jeremy and the police than tackle Sheila.

If you say so

[Jan]

Sheila must have been having a coffee break when Neville phoned Jeremy and the police. June still sleeping. Zzzz

Personally I don't think it is funny to trivialise this Adam.

[Reader]

he was already dead at the time quite clearly

It's certainly not the case that it was quite clear that he was already dead by 3:26am.

. . . the first responders told they were to go because of a call received from Jeremy

They weren't told that originally. Pc West didn't ask Jeremy to go there until after car CA7 was on its way.

[scipio_usmc]

It's certainly not the case that it was quite clear that he was already dead by 3:26am.
They weren't told that originally. Pc West didn't ask Jeremy to go there until after car CA7 was on its way.

It is extremely clear that Nevill was dead at 3:26AM and neve rmade any call to Jeremy prior.  SHeila could not have killed everyone else without getting blood of the victims and GSR on her body and clothing.  SHe had none on her clothing and even if she changed such clothing would have been found at the scene.  There is no way she coudl have shot herself without getting GSR on her gown.  Nor coudl she have done the following 3 things after she was dead:

1) lied down flat and then put the gun on her body

2) go put the moderator away

3) put the bible in a pool of her blood that formed after her death.

There is no way she lkilled anyone els eor herself.  This Jeremy had to have done it and thus Nevill never phoned him and was dead alreayd when he phoned police.  You have no evidence to counter this you just ignore it because you don't want to face the truth.

The police were told Jeremy called and woudl meet them there.  After telling the police they would be met by Jeremy he got back on the phone and told Jeremy to go meet the police he dispatched.

Your efforts to pretend they were not told they were going because of Jeremy's call fails.  The armed personnel were also briefed that Jeremy caleld and that is why they were to respond not because of a call from Nevill.

I noticed you had no balls to respond to my refutation of your ridiculous allegation I lied and made up the claim Jeremy told police sheil had fired the weapons in the house. You said I made it up but I posted numerous statements from police asserting such which is why the Appeal Court decision asserted:

"The appellant told the police that Sheila Caffell could use a gun. He said they had gone target shooting together and she had used all the guns in the house before. In the light of what they were told the uniformed officers requested armed assistance before any attempt to search the house was made."

Your efforts to paint me a liar flopped but you on the other hand have made up one lie after another to try to pretend there is evidence to suggest Nevill called the police and in the process all you have done is harm your credibility.

[guest154]

It is extremely clear that Nevill was dead at 3:26AM and neve rmade any call to Jeremy prior.  SHeila could not have killed everyone else without getting blood of the victims and GSR on her body and clothing.  SHe had none on her clothing and even if she changed such clothing would have been found at the scene.  There is no way she coudl have shot herself without getting GSR on her gown.  Nor coudl she have done the following 3 things after she was dead:

1) lied down flat and then put the gun on her body

2) go put the moderator away

3) put the bible in a pool of her blood that formed after her death.

There is no way she lkilled anyone els eor herself.  This Jeremy had to have done it and thus Nevill never phoned him and was dead alreayd when he phoned police.  You have no evidence to counter this you just ignore it because you don't want to face the truth.

The police were told Jeremy called and woudl meet them there.  After telling the police they would be met by Jeremy he got back on the phone and told Jeremy to go meet the police he dispatched.

Your efforts to pretend they were not told they were going because of Jeremy's call fails.  The armed personnel were also briefed that Jeremy caleld and that is why they were to respond not because of a call from Nevill.

I noticed you had no balls to respond to my refutation of your ridiculous allegation I lied and made up the claim Jeremy told police sheil had fired the weapons in the house. You said I made it up but I posted numerous statements from police asserting such which is why the Appeal Court decision asserted:

"The appellant told the police that Sheila Caffell could use a gun. He said they had gone target shooting together and she had used all the guns in the house before. In the light of what they were told the uniformed officers requested armed assistance before any attempt to search the house was made."

Your efforts to paint me a liar flopped but you on the other hand have made up one lie after another to try to pretend there is evidence to suggest Nevill called the police and in the process all you have done is harm your credibility.

It's points like this that really make me wonder why in 2014 Bamber still has supporters. 

[lookout]

If you believe that,you'll believe anything.

It was Neville who'd told police what type of guns which were in the farmhouse,not Jeremy. Which would mean that Neville spoke to the police ? Yes ?
Jeremy had already stated that were guns at the farmhouse,but he hadn't stated what type.

Jeremy could NOT have made both calls in 8 minutes and I defy anyone who can run over fields from WHF to Goldhanger in 8 minutes.

[guest154]

If you believe that,you'll believe anything.

It was Neville who'd told police what type of guns which were in the farmhouse,not Jeremy. Which would mean that Neville spoke to the police ? Yes ?
Jeremy had already stated that were guns at the farmhouse,but he hadn't stated what type.

Jeremy could NOT have made both calls in 8 minutes and I defy anyone who can run over fields from WHF to Goldhanger in 8 minutes.

This post is laughable! Based on NOTHING. And full of untruths. He doesn't need to have run over ANY fields in 8 minutes.