A Call To Essex Police From Neville? - The poll

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 If I had any doubts it would be that he looks too well. Paltrey,I know,but--------------------
 Eddie Gilfoyle was locked up for 18 years,an innocent man,and was literally a shadow of his former self when he was released,having been wracked with nerves,and fretting.He looked like an old man and he's younger than Jeremy. If Eddie had been inside any longer he'd have died,as like Jeremy,he never stopped pleading his innocence.
However we're not all made of the same stuff,but personally it would kill me too and I count myself as a pretty strong person both physically and mentally.

[No-Bits]

Where Harters is coming from is why do you even consider it a possibility after considering the following:

1) the physical evidence, shell casings and blood evidence as well as other related issues to body positioning, establishes both women were killed in the master bedroom and that they were not significantly moved other than Sheila being moved flat from a seated position when shot

2) the police who entered all say there was only 1 body in the kitchen, the one slumped over the chair

3) all police who went in the master bedroom say there were 2 bodies

4) Dr Craig says both female bodies were in the bedroom

5) the photos show the bodies in the bedroom

6) There is no reason why police would immediately move a body from the kitchen to the bedroom

Police instantly thought Sheila was responsible, how could her body being in the kitchen take away from that view?  Why would the raid team relocate her body from the kitchen to the bedroom before mos tother police coudl find out she had been in the kitchen?  SUch would have to have taken place quite early on, obviously before Craig arrived and before the photos were taken.

That early on in the investigation why would someone do such?  People do not do things for no reason.

The lack of  amotivation is a big enough problem but even worse the bloodpool near Sheila's body in the bedroom proves that is where she was lying shortly after her death. 

Not only would police have had to move her body but to have cleaned up dry blood that would have been in the kitchen and then relocated shell casings, all of this before many other police entered.

It is not as if the police could have changed  her being found in the bedroom a month later.  The change woudl have to have occurred very early on the first day of the investigation.

Why would police do such so early on?

This is why Harters is having trouble beliving in your sincerity.

I have to admit I wonder why you would give it any credence given these issues.

Yes that is about the size of it.

I think there is game playing, trickery and skullduggery being carried out by NGB, particularly since the mod/admin reshuffle.

This presents itself in his posts and his inaction towards certain misbehavers, in addition to feigned shock or disgust at others.

It is my opinion that he is not being entirely genuine and there is a certain amount of manipulation which has taken place to keep up appearances.

Whether he refuses to openly admit this or not is irrelevant.
He is quite welcome to disagree.

[ngb1066]

Yes that is about the size of it.

I think there is game playing, trickery and skullduggery being carried out by NGB, particularly since the mod/admin reshuffle.

This presents itself in his posts and his inaction towards certain misbehavers, in addition to feigned shock or disgust at others.
It is my opinion that he is not being entirely genuine and there is a certain amount of manipulation which has taken place to keep up appearances.

Whether he refuses to openly admit this or not is irrelevant.
He is quite welcome to disagree.

I not only disagree but I find your post thoroughly offensive Harters.  I have not lied.  On the other hand, if you want me to remind you of several serious whoppers you have told here in the past I will gladly do that.

I am really surprised at you posting in this way.

 

[No-Bits]

Hmm I don't think you like criticism. 

Nevertheless, what I've posted above appears the be the overwhelming consensus amongst unbiased forum members.

As I say:
Whether he refuses to openly admit this or not is irrelevant.
He is quite welcome to disagree.

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Are there any " unbiased " forum members ? Not from where I'm sitting there aren't !

[No-Bits]

Which whoppers NGB?

I have played around a bit when folk were trying to identify me.

I think I was a former policeman at one stage, a survivor of the London 7/7 bombings, lived in Haiti, flew apache gunships, I was 54th in line to the throne. Oh and I invented the post - it pad. 

There's probably more, if there aren't then I can make some up.  :D :D :D  ?

[Mr. Gee]

I not only disagree but I find your post thoroughly offensive Harters.  I have not lied.  On the other hand, if you want me to remind you of several serious whoppers you have told here in the past I will gladly do that.

I am really surprised at you posting in this way.

ngb scipio and hartley are just baiting you. Ihn my opinion you are one of the most honest posters on this forum. Andthem not beilieving that you are not genuine or indeed not being honest could possibly bee that they are judging you from their own characters. That is what dishonest people do. I must also emphasise that you are possibly the only honest lawyer that I have had the pleasure to be acquainted with. Moreover although scipio is endeed very clever. Note I said "clever" I feel that he has a cunning way with words and is brilliant in covering his mistakes and making people think that he is basing his views entirely on the facts.

[No-Bits]

Which whoppers NGB?

I have played around a bit when folk were trying to identify me.

I think I was a former policeman at one stage, a survivor of the London 7/7 bombings, lived in Haiti, flew apache gunships, I was 54th in line to the throne. Oh and I invented the post - it pad. 

There's probably more, if there aren't then I can make some up.  :D :D :D  ?

Oh yeah, I also used to be on stage. 

[Mr. Gee]

Are there any " unbiased " forum members ? Not from where I'm sitting there aren't !

Everyone is biased lookout, whether they acknowledge it or not. Whether they hold the truth or not is definitely another question.

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Oh yeah, I also used to be on stage. 

The landing stage,would that be.? 

[tyler]

Actually Hartley,you told us that your father died in the 7/7 bombings and I felt really sorry for you. Was this actually untrue?

[No-Bits]

Actually Hartley,you told us that your father died in the 7/7 bombings and I felt really sorry for you. Was this actually untrue?

I thought I said it was me (it was three years ago), but yes I'm afraid so, it was as untrue as the accusation at the time that I was actually David Boutflour.

However, the original point that was being made, is that NGB appears to be 'engineering' his position today. As stated above.

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I thought I said it was me (it was three years ago), but yes I'm afraid so, it was as untrue as the accusation at the time that I was actually David Boutflour.

However, the original point that was being made, is that NGB appears to be 'engineering' his position today. As stated above.

You're definitely crackers then. 

[susan]

Harters when I joined the forum at first I was told you were a busker and that is why you disappeared for weeks at a time.  Hope you are not something quite boring like an Engineer or Architect or bus driver

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A garbologist,perhaps ?