So you think my claims are simply based on logic, yet they're absurd? That would contradict your assertion that I'm lying.
I have pointed out how your claims are completely illogical. For instance how it is completely illogical to claim it would save time by not telling Jeremy that Nevill called and that police were already not on the way and instead asking Jeremy for all the same information that would already have been obtained from Nevill an dpplacing him on hold ot pretend they were dispatching police as a result of his call.
It is completely illogical to claim that after speaking to Nevill and finding out the most up to date account from Nevill the police would be very interested in taking down every little detail of Jeremy's older acocunt including details they already obtained from Nevill.
It is completely illogical for police to test Nevill's number to make sure it is busy like Jeremy claimed if Nevill had called police after calling Jeremy and thus police knew the phone had been used after.
It is completely illogical to claim that because West wrote down a different age for Sheila on his log than Bonnett wrote on his log that this suggests two different calls from two different people who gave West 2 different ages and that there is another log out there that West filled out that lists Sheila's age as 26 which notes Nevill as the caller.
I can continue but I think I sufficiently made my point.
We know Pc West wrote "crazy". Why would he then say "berserk" to Bonnett? If he said "crazy" to Bonnett, why would Bonnett write down "berserk"? This difference, considered in isolation, points to the simpler explanation that Pc West wrote down and said "berserk", which Bonnett wrote down without alteration.
This is a perfect example of how you are being completely and totally illogical.
Why would West use a synonym or Bonnett use a synonym? Easy, West was not likely reading verbati from his log but rather freely speaking and thus paraphrasing. It is also possible that Bonnett was paraphrasing because he didn't have time to write it down what he was told verbatim. These are the simple explanations and the explanations most likely.
Your explanation is neither simple nor likely it is pure fantasy.
Your explanation is that West fielded a call from Nevill and wrote down verbatim what was on Bonnett's log. He then contacted Bonnett and read such verbatim. Bonnett then wrote down such verbatim. West then fielded a call from Jeremy and wrote down another log- the log in question. West used Jeremy's call as an opportunity to hide Nevill's call and destroyed the log of Nevill's call and made no mention of such call in his notebook or anywhere else. Bonnett for his part helped cover it up by adding to his log that the quote was conveyed to West from Jeremy though it had been conveyed by Nevill and he also failed to note Nevill's call in his notebook or statements.
Far from being simple you made a grand conspiracy out of absolutely nothing. There is nothing at all suspicious about people paraphrasing and using different synonyms. I do it all the time and so do most people. Your conspiracy is unsupportable.
We know Pc West wrote down "age 27". Why would he then say "aged 26 yrs" to Bonnett? If he said "age 27" or "aged 27" or "aged 27 yrs" to Bonnett, why would Bonnett write down "aged 26 yrs"? Did Bonnett mishear "27" as "26", even though they sound quite different? This difference, considered in isolation, points to the simpler explanation that PC West wrote down and said "aged 26 yrs" or "age 26 yrs" (or similar), and Bonnett then wrote down "aged 26 yrs".
Once again your explanation is not the simpler explanation it is a completel illogical and not even remotely likely.
You ridiculously suggest that people can't make a mistake and write down something but say something different when recounting what they wrote. Peopel mispeak all the time even when giving speeches that they read off of something. People also misunderstand frequently when recording wha tothers tell them, make mistakes as they are writing because someone is speaking faster than they can write so they are trying to recall what was said moments earlier and they are behind or even accidentally write something wrong though they heard correctly. That is the simple answer and suggesting such is unlikely is ridiculous.
Your explanation is neither simple nor likely it is pure fantasy.
Your explanation is that West fielded a call from Nevill, Nevill made a mistake and said she was 26 though she was 28 and thus West wrote down age 26. West then notified Bonnett of Nevill's call and told him that he said Sheila was 26. West then fielded a call from Jeremy and though he already received Sheila's name and age form Nevill he asked Jeremy her name and age anyway. Jeremy told him 27 so he wrote this down on another log- the log in question. West used Jeremy's call as an opportunity to hide Nevill's call and destroyed the log of Nevill's call and made no mention of such call in his notebook or anywhere else. He didn't bother to tell Bonnett that Jeremy gave a different age so on Bonnett's it still listed 26. Bonnett helped cover up Nevill's call by adding to his log that the quote was conveyed to West from Jeremy though it had been conveyed by Nevill and he also failed to note Nevill's call in his notebook or statements.
That is simpler than one of them making a mistake? Far form it your explanation is not simple at all it is a ridiculously complicated conspiracy theorey supposerted by no evidence at all and completely lacking in logic.
We know Pc West wrote down "has the gun". Why would he then say "has got hold of one of my guns" to Bonnett? If he said "has the gun", why would Bonnett write down "has got hold of one of my guns"? Bonnett wouldn't have known at that time whose gun it was. This difference, considered in isolation, points to the simpler explanation that Pc West wrote down "has got hold of one of my guns" and Bonnett then wrote that down.
You are a broken record merely. Once again your explanation is not the more simple explanation it is convoluted conpiracy claim tha tis pure fantasy.
West easily could have chosen to say something different than he wrote down. He coudl have tried conveying to Bonnett what he thought Nevill would have conveyed to Jeremy. It is also possible that Bonnett chose to dres sit up. Either one is not only possible but most likely what happened. Your claim is not even remotely likely.
Far from being simple once again you come up with the compex ridiculous tale that West fielded a call from Nevill and wrote down verbatim what was on Bonnett's log. He then contacted Bonnett and read such verbatim. Bonnett then wrote down such verbatim. West then fielded a call from Jeremy and wrote down another log- the log in question. West used Jeremy's call as an opportunity to hide Nevill's call and destroyed the log of Nevill's call and made no mention of such call in his notebook or anywhere else. Bonnett for his part helped cover it up by adding to his log that the quote was conveyed to West from Jeremy though it had been conveyed by Nevill and he also failed to note Nevill's call in his notebook or statements.
Each time you claim this conspiracy nonsense is the more simple and the more likely explanation than West and/or Bonnett paraphrasing or making mistakes you insult our intelligence. This is the 3rd time in the same post you made such claim and it is not even remotely true.
We know Pc West wrote down 0336 as the time when he received Jeremy's call. Is he so bad at his job that he can't even log the time correctly? A simpler explanation is that this time was correct.
The simple explanation is that Bonnett wrote down the time that West called him whereas West wrote down the time at his call with Jeremy ended. West acknowledged that the time is not always written at the beginning. When something significant happens you want to record the most important details which is the substance the time is not nearly as important.
Your explanation is not simple it is a complex ridiculous conspiracy claim. Your claim is that after calling Jeremy Nevill hung up the phone and then immediately took it off the hook and left it off the hook as he looked up the phone number of a police station that was not his local station. Around 10 minutes passed and he hung the phone up to get a dialtone then dialed the station. West answered the call and filled out a log, then at 3:26 called Bonnett to report the call. Bonnett recorded the call as reaching him at 3:26. They then dispatched police telling them to go to WHF because Nevill called. As soon as the call with Nevill ended then Jeremy called the same exact station that Nevill did and gets the same dispatcher. Nevill records this call as being received at 3:36. West decides to use Jeremy's call as an opportunity to hide Nevill's call and destroyed the log of Nevill's call and made no mention of such call in his notebook or anywhere else. Bonnett for his part helped cover it up by adding to his log that the quote was conveyed to West from Jeremy though it had been conveyed by Nevill and he also failed to note Nevill's call in his notebook or statements. Bonnett forgot to alter the time of the call though and never wrote down the time of Jeremy's call on his. The police were contacted by radio and told not to mention to Jeremy that they were dispatched as a result of Nevill's call and told to pretend Nevill had never called and only report that they had been dispatched as a result of Jeremy's call.
Far from being a more simple explanation you have made up a wild fairytale and ignore that Jeremy calling so late doesn't fit any of the evidence at all including making it impossible for him to have been able to been passed by police.
If Pc West made a separate log of a call from Nevill, would EP be happy to release that log to Jeremy or would they tell Pc West to keep quiet about it? Why did it later take a court order for EP to release many pages of police logging that they had previously denied the existence of?
Malcolm Bonnett's log was not made available on the internet until well after the 2002 appeal. As far as we know, it wasn't used at that appeal. That makes little sense if the defence were aware of it all along.
The defense was aware of Bonnett's log it was used at trial. The defense was well aware the times on the logs did not match. West said he could have made a mistake about the time or may not have written the time at the beginning of the call.
Far from being hidden Bonnett's log offers no ability of the defense to claim what you are alleging you made up a load of nonsense that is not suggested at all by the logs.
Your whole argument hinges upon there being another log that was kept by West that was destroyed. Moroever your argument requires West to have colluded with Bonnett and the police responding to the scene to conceal Nevill's call. It requires West to have decided instantly to conceal it from Jeremy himself and to get the officers to also conceal it from Jeremy and to lie from that point forward. There is no reason at all for West to have decided to do that or for any police to agree to go along at that early point in time. It is completely absurd. They didn't even know if anyone had bene hurt at WHF at that point in time.
There is no evidence at all to support such wild accusations so how coudl the defense have alleged it to an appeal court?
Despite stating that I'm lying and that what I'm considering is absurd and ridiculous, you've since stated "I can see how some could wonder whether the log reflected a call from Nevill to Bonnett".
Yes I said that if someone failed to read it carefully and only read the quote attributed to Nevill they could get that impression BUT upon closer scrutiny it becomes readily apparent that the caller was PC West not Nevill and that the quote is allegedly what Nevill said to Jeremy. Moreover after looking a tall the available testimony it beocmes even more readily apparent. If someone is made aware of all such testimony and everything on the log is pointed out to them and they still maintin it proves a call from Nevill then at that point they can't claim they are just making an error but are actively lying.
Far from making that mistake you ridiculously suggest Bonnett's log reflects a call from Nevill to West though it does no such thing and the notebooks, statements and court testimony of these men and the police who they dispatched makes clear that is not the case.
Your fantasy tale is complete BS and everyone knows it. It is even worse than Mike's claims of it reflecting a call from Nevill to Bonnet. The only people who might not admit it are those Jeremy supporters who are so biased and desperate to pretend there is evidence of Jeremy's innocence they will likewise allege complete BS they know was made up.
