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Offline Adam

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June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« on: September 06, 2014, 08:07:AM »
Professor Macdonnell said June was shot with her head on the pillow.

Not that blood dripped onto the pillow, but that June was lying down when shot. With her head on the pillow.

The most plausible explanation for this is that June was asleep when shot. If awake prior to the shootings, she would be out of bed, or at least sitting up.

It is not realistic that June would not wake up herself, or be woken up by Neville, if Sheila had a rifle and was acting in a crazy way.

The situation was so serious that Neville had rang Jeremy and the police. Before doing this he would have attempted to get help from the other adult at WHF -June. Or he would have woken June to warn her of the serious situation.

Another reason Neville would wake June would be to get her to ring Jeremy and the police. While Neville monitors Sheila.

Another poster recently said Sheila was 'marching around WHF with the rifle' while Neville spent several minutes ringing Jeremy and the police downstairs. This is not plausible as Neville was leaving the sleeping twins and June at the mercy of a crazy Sheila, holding a fully loaded rifle. Neville would have woken June prior to making his calls, if June was (surprisingly) asleep.

The most plausible explanation for June being shot with her head on the pillow, is that she was asleep and did not hear or see her shooter beforehand. This will be the case if Jeremy had quietly got into WHF and crept upstairs.

By coincidence, Neville also received his first four shots just a few feet from June, in and around the same bed. Again suggesting he was in bed when the shooter entered the bedroom.

Do other people believe that June being shot with her head on the pillow shows certain guilt ?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 10:16:AM by Adam »
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 12:45:PM »
Although Neville received his first rifle shots a few feet from June, it was of  course not possible that he was in bed when Sheila started shooting.  After all he had gone downstairs to ring Jeremy and the police. Hadn't he ?

Bit strange that with Neville and Sheila awake & out of bed in the main bedroom, prior to 11 bullets being fired, Neville right next to June, that June was still sleeping with her head on the pillow. 
« Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 12:54:PM by Adam »
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 12:53:PM »
Why should/must it be " certain guilt ?".

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 12:57:PM »
Why should/must it be " certain guilt ?".

Read the thread post. It is ridiculous that June would sleep through the build up to the shooting, if it was Sheila. 

Jeremy's supporters are always claiming Sheila would have woken if Jeremy was creeping around with a silencer. So why not June if Sheila was going crazy inside WHF ? 
« Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 01:06:PM by Adam »
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 01:17:PM »
Read the thread post. It is ridiculous that June would sleep through the build up to the shooting, if it was Sheila. 

Jeremy's supporters are always claiming Sheila would have woken if Jeremy was creeping around with a silencer. So why not June if Sheila was going crazy inside WHF ?





Now how is it that you knew that June was asleep ? Were you there ?? You must have been or you'd have read about June having been a bad sleeper,actually scared to close her eyes sometimes because of the nightmares she'd suffered.
I'd say that she'd have lightly closed her eyes,but not necessarily gone into any sort of a deep sleep because she'd have had a LOT on her mind that night,besides the fact that with the twins being there she'd have been sleeping lightly in case they woke up in the night.

Have you no human instincts at all ?

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 01:20:PM »




Now how is it that you knew that June was asleep ? Were you there ?? You must have been or you'd have read about June having been a bad sleeper,actually scared to close her eyes sometimes because of the nightmares she'd suffered.
I'd say that she'd have lightly closed her eyes,but not necessarily gone into any sort of a deep sleep because she'd have had a LOT on her mind that night,besides the fact that with the twins being there she'd have been sleeping lightly in case they woke up in the night.

Have you no human instincts at all ?

Do you think June was asleep when shot ?
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 01:24:PM »
Read the thread post. It is ridiculous that June would sleep through the build up to the shooting, if it was Sheila. 

Jeremy's supporters are always claiming Sheila would have woken if Jeremy was creeping around with a silencer. So why not June if Sheila was going crazy inside WHF ?

wouldent that aply to both sheila and jeremy though.

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 01:30:PM »
wouldent that aply to both sheila and jeremy though.

It is much more likely that June would not wake if Jeremy had quietly got into WHF & crept upstairs.

But not realistic to expect June to stay sleeping while Sheila was going 'crazy' over a long period. See thread post.
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 01:31:PM »
Do you think June was asleep when shot ?





No,,June would have been wide awake.

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 01:34:PM »




No,,June would have been wide awake.

Why was she shot with her head on the pillow ?
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 01:37:PM »
Why was she shot with her head on the pillow ?





Stop asking stupid questions !

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2014, 01:40:PM »




Stop asking stupid questions !

It may have been a 'stupid' question the jury asked each other.
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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2014, 01:42:PM »
Adam June was lying down.

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Re: June shot with her head on the pillow - certain guilt ?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2014, 01:43:PM »
Adam June was lying down.

Asleep ?
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