why not wipe the gun.

[susan]

jansus he may not have been wearing gloves the evening before when he was loaded ready to shoot rabbits so prints would be on the rifle.

[scipio_usmc]

so his glove falls of and he hasnt got the brians to put it back on agian and wipe the gun so his prints on it.

He did put it back on but he already touched the weapon with his bare hand he beleived and was not sure where so that means he woudl have aot have cleaned off the whole rifle.   

Once again you ignore the problem of a gun wiped clean after it being used to murder everyone.  If the gun were spotless save for some prints from Sheila then that would be a sign she was being framed.  The beating from Nevill and close shots would have resulted in medium and high velocity impact spatter.  The lack of any impact spatter or other blood and evidence on the gun would mean it had been wiped down after the murders.  Why would Sheila clean the weapon after killing everyone?  A weapon nice and clean except for her prints would make it obvious someone killed everyone, cleaned it then planted her prints.  Nevill's blood got all over the weapon and he needed it to stay there.


 

[lookout]

So the " marigolds " did come in handy afterall. They don't leave fibres 

[Jan]

jansus he may not have been wearing gloves the evening before when he was loaded ready to shoot rabbits so prints would be on the rifle.

I said he did not have to make up that story either -Sheila could have got hold of the gun from a gun cupboard that was not locked anyway. In fact it was reported that her prints were on the other guns in the house anyway.

I don't get the bit about him being scared about his prints being found anyway as attributed to Julie - as I said he never told her he did it anyway ( even though she knew that he had

Why would he care about anthonys prints being on the gun ? he either handled it or he didn't?

[nugnug]

He did put it back on but he already touched the weapon with his bare hand he beleived and was not sure where so that means he woudl have aot have cleaned off the whole rifle.   

Once again you ignore the problem of a gun wiped clean after it being used to murder everyone.  If the gun were spotless save for some prints from Sheila then that would be a sign she was being framed.  The beating from Nevill and close shots would have resulted in medium and high velocity impact spatter.  The lack of any impact spatter or other blood and evidence on the gun would mean it had been wiped down after the murders.  Why would Sheila clean the weapon after killing everyone?  A weapon nice and clean except for her prints would make it obvious someone killed everyone, cleaned it then planted her prints.  Nevill's blood got all over the weapon and he needed it to stay there.

bye the time the raid team turned up it wouldn't notice that it had been cleaned as there first assumption was suicede sheilas prints  and only hers would confirm that theory it wouldn't also mean they couldent prove anyone else picked up the gun not beyond reasonable doubt anyway.

[JackiePreece]

Nugs, lookout and Jansus you are right

He is meant to have staged a suicide placing a bible at the right page, worn a wetsuit etc etc and then forget about something as silly as above

Poor illusional posters

He is meant to be very cunning ??

[nugnug]

well its hardly likely he would clean away all traces of himself exept a fingerprint.

[nugnug]

I said he did not have to make up that story either -Sheila could have got hold of the gun from a gun cupboard that was not locked anyway. In fact it was reported that her prints were on the other guns in the house anyway.

I don't get the bit about him being scared about his prints being found anyway as attributed to Julie - as I said he never told her he did it anyway ( even though she knew that he had

Why would he care about anthonys prints being on the gun ? he either handled it or he didn't?

exactly hes got no reason to want to tell a story about shooting rabbits unless of course the story's true.

in fact by telling that storyhes droping himself right in it.

[lookout]

That's exactly what happened,nugs. Because he told the truth. That's why he was cocky and had attitude whilst being interviewed. The police conveniently took it the wrong way,unless they need brush-up lessons/re-training on what to expect from some of those who are innocent. Jeremy was trying his level best to get one over on the police because he was so sure of himself and kept his head high------but alas,it makes you think whether honesty was the best policy.Even today the police still can't tell if someone's lying or not.
I'd tell anyone who was innocently arrested to lie through their teeth,speak with a common accent and tell them you're as poor as a church mouse,you wouldn't be any worse off.
What a world we live in !!

If Jeremy had have kicked off,they'd have had him anyway,so either way he couldn't win.

[scipio_usmc]

bye the time the raid team turned up it wouldn't notice that it had been cleaned as there first assumption was suicede sheilas prints  and only hers would confirm that theory it wouldn't also mean they couldent prove anyone else picked up the gun not beyond reasonable doubt anyway.

You are living in fantasyland.

The police and worse the lab would have noticed that it had been wiped clean when the lab found nothing at all on thw weapon but her prints.  The lack of blood would be a sure sign it had been wiped down.

Your claim that they would not have realized it was wiped down is bad enough but worse you insist Jeremy had a crystal ball and knew they would not figre out it had been wiped down so he would have wiped it down and woudl have wiped down all the shell casings so he had no need to make up the absurd story about tkaing the gun out to shoot rabbits.

You alos ignore the evidence that proves the bullets were not left out before the murders like he claimed but staged after the murders.  That further demonstrates the entire tale was false.

All you are doing is embarrassing yourself making up stupid excuses that fall flat because you are to biased to admit any of Jeremy's obvious lies.

[lookout]

Aren't you biased too,Scipio,or are you just imagining it.?

[nugnug]

it would of been better to wipe it down than leave a print on it without the print they couldn't prove anything.

Jeremy would have know way of knowing what a forensic lab can pick up not being a forensic expert.

Scorpio your assuming that jeremy bamber knows exactly what a forensic lab can and cant do.

wich he obviously wouldn't.

[susan]

nugnug how does relaying the story about shooting rabbits drop him right in it.  Sorry but rather confused about this incident of rabbits and rifles and prints

[nugnug]

You are living in fantasyland.

The police and worse the lab would have noticed that it had been wiped clean when the lab found nothing at all on thw weapon but her prints.  The lack of blood would be a sure sign it had been wiped down.

Your claim that they would not have realized it was wiped down is bad enough but worse you insist Jeremy had a crystal ball and knew they would not figre out it had been wiped down so he would have wiped it down and woudl have wiped down all the shell casings so he had no need to make up the absurd story about tkaing the gun out to shoot rabbits.

You alos ignore the evidence that proves the bullets were not left out before the murders like he claimed but staged after the murders.  That further demonstrates the entire tale was false.

All you are doing is embarrassing yourself making up stupid excuses that fall flat because you are to biased to admit any of Jeremy's obvious lies.

all ive done is point out a simple fact if hes using gloves it means he doesnt want hes fingerprints to be found he knows without those his fingerprints will be found so he knows if hes gloves fall of his prints are on the gun and he knows he doesnt want so what chioce does but to wipe the gun and take his chances he has know way of know weather they can find out weather its been wiped.

[nugnug]

nugnug how does relaying the story about shooting rabbits drop him right in it.  Sorry but rather confused about this incident of rabbits and rifles and prints

because hes just admitted that it was him that loaded the gun.

his admited hes the last known person to have handeled the gun.

thats pretty incriminating.