The Week of the Murders

[Jan]

Stan Jones was at home when he received a call from someone at Witham Police station. It was Liz Rimmington -

Liz ? (SJ).

Hello

Have you got Julie with you ?

Yes.

Is it about the Bamber case ?

Yes.

Is she making allegations ?

Yes

I will be right over.


Julie said to SJ straight away she just couldn't live with Jeremy's secret anymore. She had tried to deny the truth. But now wanted the truth to come out.

As everyone knows, Julie had no reason to speak to the police. They had nothing on her.

how strange - when details of the call have not been released -so you are saying the author spoke to stan jones - and he knew right away what the call was about?

[lookout]

I've just been reading about " Damning Evidence kept back by Ann Eaton/Barbara Wilson ". Threats to kill by SC. Nov. 2011. It's on this forum.
I didn't know that BW had done 4 statements ?

[Adam]

how strange - when details of the call have not been released -so you are saying the author spoke to stan jones - and he knew right away what the call was about?

The author interviewed everyone. Including Jeremy, excluding Julie.

[Jan]

I am suggesting that you are mistaken in your conclusions.
If such evidence was available, I'd be questioning why both a apparently respected legal team and also the CCRC are not able to be more .............. magical. 

I think EP like the power as their arguments are not convincing - And the CCRC probably think they have done their bit and are probably concentrating on the list of other cases they have to deal with .

the only people who could in theory get the EP to release them are the home office.

[Jan]

The author interviewed everyone. Including Jeremy, excluding Julie.

that's not everyone then. why not the star witness?

[Adam]

that's not everyone then. why not the star witness?

He would have asked her. But she said 'no'.

[scipio_usmc]

I've just been reading about " Damning Evidence kept back by Ann Eaton/Barbara Wilson ". Threats to kill by SC. Nov. 2011. It's on this forum.
I didn't know that BW had done 4 statements ?

What damning evidence?  First of all from Barabar Wilson it is hearsay. We don't know what if anything Sheila told Ann let alone the circumstances.  Far form a threat to kill the alelgation is she said something to the effect of all people are bad and should be killed.  Did she actually say all people should be killed though or did Barabar WIlson get it wrong?

If she did say all peopel should be killed when and what was the context?  That would be much more relavenat if someoen supposedly went on a rampage trying to kill as many people as they could.   

Far from being damning evidence it is another meaningless pie in the sky claim that has no ability at all to refute the phycial evidence in this case which proves Sheila did not kill anyone else or herself.

[No-Bits]

I think EP like the power as their arguments are not convincing - And the CCRC probably think they have done their bit and are probably concentrating on the list of other cases they have to deal with .

the only people who could in theory get the EP to release them are the home office.

Fantasy. It was not usual to disclose all information, if information is available, an experienced legal team are likely to be able to obtain such information.

As has occurred in the past..

It is now just propaganda and nonsense in my view. Otherwise our highly esteemed and decorated legal practitioners would have a little more lead in their pencils.

Having said that, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[No-Bits]

I've just been reading about " Damning Evidence kept back by Ann Eaton/Barbara Wilson ". Threats to kill by SC. Nov. 2011. It's on this forum.
I didn't know that BW had done 4 statements ?

BW wrote 17 statements. Only one is one the public domain.

[Jan]

Fantasy. It was not usual to disclose all information, if information is available, an experienced legal team are likely to be able to obtain such information.

As has occurred in the past..

It is now just propaganda and nonsense in my view. Otherwise our highly esteemed and decorated legal practitioners would have a little more lead in their pencils.

Having said that, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

if they knew it existed at the time.

I can see some things would be sensitive ( such as photos of the children) and  possibly kept under PII - but 200 boxes? Plus all the other items that were destroyed?

You are correct in that some things may have even been seen before and in that case EP are  enjoying playing games - perhaps they were smarting after all their criticism .

The way things are going we may never know.

[No-Bits]

if they knew it existed at the time.

I can see some things would be sensitive ( such as photos of the children) and  possibly kept under PII - but 200 boxes? Plus all the other items that were destroyed?

You are correct in that some things may have even been seen before and in that case EP are  enjoying playing games - perhaps they were smarting after all their criticism .

The way things are going we may never know.

I think that is what JB and his supporters would like you to believe.

Obviously I think that is ......... horlicks.   

[guest7363]

how strange - when details of the call have not been released -so you are saying the author spoke to stan jones - and he knew right away what the call was about?

Hi Janus, stan jones agreed and was portrayed as a hero who stood up to his bosses never wavering in his belief of Bambers guilt. He agreed to go on record and be interrigated for the book, a lot of the serving officers would not cooperate with the book because of Bambers complaint about the force and his attempts to appeal at the time was live.

[susan]

Hello Justice  how interesting did not know that

[guest7363]

If we talk of the week of the murders this is how quick Stan Jones was onto Bamber Mr Jones said he was always sceptical of Bamber's innocence and raised his concerns at a meeting of detectives.

"On the second day after the shooting I spoke out and said it was Bamber who did it. I was ostracised and (I) spent a month of hell.                                                                                                                                                             

[guest7363]

Hello Justice  how interesting did not know that

Hi Susan that is in the Law magazine for Essex police feb 1994