The Week of the Murders

[No-Bits]

I never expected me to change you're stance.

You had been on a 90% pro Jeremy forum for a long time. So had a strong view. 

When I started posting, you focused more on me, rather than my posts. So did not take in what I was saying. Even now I have to say the same things several times.  Which is fine, as you were not the only one.

But pleased Caroline and Harters convinced you.

Why are you pleased, that's a bit odd. Why are you trying/hoping to change people's minds?

[Adam]

yes ? he said she was telling lies - don't quite get your point ? Susan was asking about what he did after the trial as well?

Yes, the OS was created 'after the trial'.

[lookout]

A lot of her testimony is in Wilkes's book. Her WS's are online.

Books are no good Adam. They are just authors preferences and don't give the WHOLE picture. The books that have been written ALL give different versions of the same tragic event,while authors,each one of them has interviewed Jeremy,the police and relatives,though I'm not too sure whether the relatives declined on one or two things which Lomax put to them. I do know that AE declined being interviewed at WHF sometime in the 90's.
So we have 3 books which are written about the same case with the same people being interviewed but 3 entirely different views on the tragedy-------------is this right in your eyes ? Because it isn't in mine.

[Adam]

Adam what is your source for your information - because this is what I have read on the forum


Julie Mugford and Elizabeth Rimmington
 Essex Police were convinced on the basis of all available evidence that Sheila had killed the family and committed suicide. On the 7th September 1985 Elizabeth Rimmington telephoned Witham Police Station to say that Julie Mugford was withholding vital evidence in the White House Farm enquiry. This was at 4pm. This telephone call was documented as Telephone Report Number One.  The exact content of this telephone call from Ms Rimmington is still a mystery as Essex Police continue to withhold this document from the Defence.

This is the sequence of events:
 5:00pm D.S. Stan Jones goes to the address of Malcolm Waters and takes Julie Mugford into custody. (HOLMES 64/13 and 1/12).
Whilst in custody


So why would they take her into custody? sounds to me more like Liz was dobbing her in?

It is in Wilkes's book. I will find the quote tonight.

[Jan]

the only shock will be if the EP release what is in the 200 boxes. They seem very determined not to .

[Jan]

Yes, the OS was created 'after the trial'.

I think we are talking at crossed purposes.

[No-Bits]

the only shock will be if the EP release what is in the 200 boxes. They seem very determined not to .

I think you have been listening to propaganda a little too much.

[Jan]

I think you have been listening to propaganda a little too much.

no - I have read their statement about why they wont release them ?

it is on the forum .

[Adam]

the only shock will be if the EP release what is in the 200 boxes. They seem very determined not to .

Oh yes. The mysterious alleged 200 boxes.

But would Jeremy's cell fit another 200 boxes in ? Apparently it is already jam packed with boxes. Does he have a cell mate ?

[Jan]

Oh yes. The mysterious alleged 200 boxes.

But would Jeremy's cell fit another 200 boxes in ? Apparently it is already jam packed with boxes. Does he have a cell mate ?

sarcasm does not suit you Adam.

Stick to facts.

The boxes do exist EP have admitted that . So they are not mysterious. If they did release them I am sure his legal team would help him.

[No-Bits]

no - I have read their statement about why they wont release them ?

it is on the forum .

I am suggesting that you are mistaken in your conclusions.
If such evidence was available, I'd be questioning why both a apparently respected legal team and also the CCRC are not able to be more .............. magical. 

[susan]

Adam my love sorry to disappoint you I never had strong view always hazy.  Although I may have appeared to have I was confused by so much and two good friends of mine who I speak to by pm helped me so much to understand  the situation and they know who they are I have never openly discussed the guilty stance with them as yet. I said to you Caroline and Harters have made many convincing posts not to me directly but on the open forum and I read them thought about them and things started to fit into place, I honestly do not think any posters on either side are trying to convince and convert others to their way of thinking it is not important to people what they believe in is.  I can think of one who does not fit into that category

[Adam]

Stan Jones was at home when he received a call from someone at Witham Police station. It was Liz Rimmington -

Liz ? (SJ).

Hello

Have you got Julie with you ?

Yes.

Is it about the Bamber case ?

Yes.

Is she making allegations ?

Yes

I will be right over.


Julie said to SJ straight away she just couldn't live with Jeremy's secret anymore. She had tried to deny the truth. But now wanted the truth to come out.

As everyone knows, Julie had no reason to speak to the police. They had nothing on her.

[susan]

Adam you are so funny a real tonic hope you got the accents right

[susan]

Adam you have to say things several times as I'm a little deaf and don 't always hear you.  I was focused on you yes not your posts Bless your cotton socks.