The Week of the Murders

[No-Bits]

Harters,I'm being facetious meaning another 97 years to go. Will any of us care ?

Oh okay.  I was being deadly serious,  there is no hope.

[nugnug]

what none at all.

not even a tiny bit.

[No-Bits]

what none at all.

not even a tiny bit.

No, none whatsoever.

[Adam]

the question was why did he not make more of a point /fuss / scream from the roof tops that she was telling lies.

That is what I answered

What roof tops.

[Adam]

except for the letter I have not read anything either .

But her testimony was for things that were only said between the two of them. They were not verified or witnessed by a third person at any time?

So really I don't know what he could do - except what he did - write and I guess beg her to tell the truth?

A lot of witnesses said similar things to Julie about how much Jeremy hated his family and how he resented his situation.

[Adam]

except for the letter I have not read anything either .

But her testimony was for things that were only said between the two of them. They were not verified or witnessed by a third person at any time?

So really I don't know what he could do - except what he did - write and I guess beg her to tell the truth?

Jeremy's OS has a whole chapter on Julie.

[lookout]

Oh okay.  I was being deadly serious,  there is no hope.

To be perfectly honest,I couldn't rightfully say which way this next "attempt " will go. By my nature I'm not a very optimistic person,seemingly always finding hurdles whatever the situation. It comes with looking too far ahead and not living the moment as most would.
A nice surprise is a bonus to a pessimistic person.
I was always being told never to count my chickens,when I was growing up,and it's stuck with me. That way,you don't get any nasty shocks either.

[Adam]

I think this is what Caroline has implied as well - by saying it is not so much what she says but what she doesn't say.

I must admit I would like to see her testimony in full  and all the statements she made.

A lot of her testimony is in Wilkes's book. Her WS's are online.

[No-Bits]

To be perfectly honest,I couldn't rightfully say which way this next "attempt " will go. By my nature I'm not a very optimistic person,seemingly always finding hurdles whatever the situation. It comes with looking too far ahead and not living the moment as most would.
A nice surprise is a bonus to a pessimistic person.
I was always being told never to count my chickens,when I was growing up,and it's stuck with me. That way,you don't get any nasty shocks either.

Just my prediction, but there will be no shocks.

[Jan]

A lot of her testimony is in Wilkes's book. Her WS's are online.

actually I meant her 32 interviews - my mistake.

[Jan]

What roof tops.

its a metaphor

[Adam]

Harters I quite agree I very much have a mind of my own and it is entirely my own thoughts and feelings that have made me change my stance.  The reason I brought you and Caroline into it because you have with some of your posts made me see things differently.  Sorry I did not mean to imply you had converted me.  I must admit I have discussed the case in depth with posters by pm and have been greatly influenced by their comments.  Sorry Adam.

I never expected me to change you're stance.

You had been on a 90% pro Jeremy forum for a long time. Saying yourself that you only read about the case from this board.  So had a strong guilty stance. 

When I started posting, you focused more on me, rather than my posts. So did not take in what I was saying. Even now I have to say the same things several times.  Which is fine, as you were not the only one.

But pleased Caroline and Harters convinced you.

[No-Bits]

A lot of her testimony is in Wilkes's book. Her WS's are online.

Only about 8 of them are, including the COLP and appeal statements there should be 37 I think.

Wilkes simply paraphrases the parts he wishes to refer to.

[Jan]

A lot of witnesses said similar things to Julie about how much Jeremy hated his family and how he resented his situation.

Also some said he did not. Including his father who trusted him enough to give him shares in both businesses

[Jan]

Jeremy's OS has a whole chapter on Julie.

yes ? he said she was telling lies - don't quite get your point ? Susan was asking about what he did after the trial as well?