The Week of the Murders

[susan]

Caroline  I know lookout very well and one thing she does not do is tell lies she is too straight talking for that maybe she does not come over as she means to do and others read her wrong but you could not meet a more passionate honest woman and Jeremy Bamber is very lucky to have her as a supporter.  She does not attack others for saying he is guilty and I admire her for that.  If she knows she has posted up incorrect information she is the first to apologise.

[Jan]

It's against forum rules also.  No member should be called a liar.

or dishonest -its personal - some of the posts against Alias and myself have been well out of order - and I have only reacted once .

If its against the rules I would at least like it pointed out that I am not happy that certain posters seem to be free to post whatever they want.

[susan]

April you know the saying "you can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time" you carry on being "you" and keep up your good work X

[scipio_usmc]

Trolling ? You're the troll,full of your own damned importance,never wrong,always right,calling people liars because it doesn't fit your own personal scenario. Yes,I've " met " those like you on the net and they're not nice people. Considering that you say that you're a lawyer,there's absolutely NOTHING about you that describes you as a person in that profession,whether you " live in the States " or in Timbuktu.

Now I'd like a resume of ALL the posts I've made that are " allegedly " lies,or whatever you like to call them.

I have yet to see a post from you that is accurate.

All you do on this board is defend Jeremy with distortions and ad hominenm.  Most of your day is spent ignoring and evidence posted by others instead of discussing it. 

You are incapable in the meantime of posting your own evidence or substance.

What do you do here?  Anytime someone posts evidence regarding Jeremy's guilt you run to his defense insisting that there was no evidence against him and that he is innocent and such a great guy.   You don't refute the points raised with evidence of your own.  Instead you just make the unsupported claim he is innocent and criticize those posting the evidence and so called guilters in general.

What facts have you contributed to this board?  What factual debates do you participate in?  You post outlandish inaccurate things and praise the outlandish lies posted by Mike.

You interrupt debates instead of contributing to them.

That is usually referred to as a troll in internet lingo.

[nugnug]

I have yet to see a post from you that is accurate.

All you do on this board is defend Jeremy with distortions and ad hominenm.  Most of your day is spent ignoring and evidence posted by others instead of discussing it. 

You are incapable in the meantime of posting your own evidence or substance.

What do you do here?  Anytime someone posts evidence regarding Jeremy's guilt you run to his defense insisting that there was no evidence against him and that he is innocent and such a great guy.   You don't refute the points raised with evidence of your own.  Instead you just make the unsupported claim he is innocent and criticize those posting the evidence and so called guilters in general.

What facts have you contributed to this board?  What factual debates do you participate in?  You post outlandish inaccurate things and praise the outlandish lies posted by Mike.

You interrupt debates instead of contributing to them.

That is usually referred to as a troll in internet lingo.

did you bother to read what rouch just said.

lookout your a great poster the fact this freak is stalking proves how great you are.

[lookout]

 I can't believe what you've just posted---------------------you need help,you're not right in the head.!!

[scipio_usmc]

Caroline  I know lookout very well and one thing she does not do is tell lies she is too straight talking for that maybe she does not come over as she means to do and others read her wrong but you could not meet a more passionate honest woman and Jeremy Bamber is very lucky to have her as a supporter.  She does not attack others for saying he is guilty and I admire her for that.  If she knows she has posted up incorrect information she is the first to apologise.

I have never seen her apologize or acknowoledge the false things she has written as being false.  Indeed she keeps repeating them ad nauseum including the 2 bogus claims at issue.

She has so far refused to acknowledge that she was wrong about Sheila saying that she was contemplating suicide the 4 months prior to her death.

Likewise she has refused to acknowledge that she was wrong about Sheila telling Ferguson for 2 years that she was contemplating killing her children and mother.

I could spend all day long posting the wacky things she has suggested including that Julie put him up to the Caravan Robbery.

She seems to have no grasp of the facts as all nor does she seem to actually care about them, only to run around insisting Jeremy is innocent.

If she ever responded on point to an issue being debated substantively I would be absolutely astonished. As astonished as a thread here actually staying on subject...



       

[lookout]

 You're a control freak and if you think that you can mess with my head,you're mistaken. I'm NOT one of your puppets that you can manipulate,you evil sod !!

[JackiePreece]

Here you go again same old rubbish

Remind me what Colin said to the police when he got the news of the murders?

Remember it's a fact Jeremy loved farming

Jeremy never said a bad thing about his family
Babs Wilsons statement

Jeremy got on well with his sister
Fact her boyfriend said so

I could go on but I am bored ready your posts

You don't know anything factual you are just making up whatever you feel like

And you get off on bullying people

[nugnug]

oh colin said he loved farming did he.

[scipio_usmc]

Here you go again same old rubbish

Remind me what Colin said to the police when he got the news of the murders?

You mean when he said that he had a hard time believing she would kill the kids and Nevill and could only see her killing her mother because they had problems?

Remember it's a fact Jeremy loved farming

Far from it being a fact there is not a shred of evidence to establish he enjoyed farming only evidence to the contrary including the fact he never farmed again after their death and planned to seell the farms.

Jeremy never said a bad thing about his family
Babs Wilsons statement

He said plenty of bad things about them to others including his prospective mother in law and she testified in court about such. There was alos plenty of evidence that he didn't get along well with his parents.

Jeremy got on well with his sister
Fact her boyfriend said so

He admitted he didn't get along with her and other witnesses said the same thing.

I could go on but I am bored ready your posts

You don't know anything factual you are just making up whatever you feel like

And you get off on bullying people

You are describing yourself.  You are the Queen of projection- which is a defense mechanism you probably never heard of though you practice it regularly.

Your supposed facts aren't.  You ignore all the significant issues in this case and don't have the first damn clue about the facts and evidence adduced at trial.

You just make generalized claims supportive of Jeremy insisting he is innocent.

Dismissing evidence doesn't make it go away it must be refuted.  Posting fake facts doesn't refute the evidence it just makes you look sad.

The first step in trying to refute the evidence is to learn what the evidence was and fully understand it.  Of his hardcore supporters the only one actually familiar with the evidence is Mike.  He can't that evidence with anything legitimate though so resorts to all sorts of claims that have shot his credibility to hell and result in few people even reading his posts let alone bothering to respond.

[nugnug]

Here you go again same old rubbish

Remind me what Colin said to the police when he got the news of the murders?

Remember it's a fact Jeremy loved farming

Jeremy never said a bad thing about his family
Babs Wilsons statement

Jeremy got on well with his sister
Fact her boyfriend said so

I could go on but I am bored ready your posts

You don't know anything factual you are just making up whatever you feel like

And you get off on bullying people

what did colin say to the police jackie whatever he said means far more than what mugford said hes got no reaon to lie.

[JackiePreece]

 

You mean when he said that he had a hard time believing she would kill the kids and Nevill and could only see her killing her mother because they had problems?


Skip open your eyes Colin guessed Sheila had committed suicide!!! Anyone in the depths of her illness is NOT acting rationally. It is very PUBLIC knowledge what Sheila said about her children which was far from normal.  Sheila was the victim in this.  Let down by her family, let down by social services, let's down by her doctors and let down by Colin.  If Colin had the slightest inclination Sheila could commit suicide he should have protected his children




Far from it being a fact there is not a shred of evidence to establish he enjoyed farming only evidence to the contrary including the fact he never farmed again after their death and planned to seell the farms.

Open up your eyes Skip

There is factual evidence from his ex girlfriend that he loved farming
When he wanted to travel he chose a country when he could continue farming something he loved
He had a fantastic public school background and could easily have chosen a different career
Of course he would have wanted to get away from where his family was murdered
Have you got factual prove anywhere that he would not have moved somewhere else and carried on farming





He said plenty of bad things about them to others including his prospective mother in law and she testified in court about such. There was alos plenty of evidence that he didn't get along well with his parents.

Open your eyes Skip

What bad things?
Barbara Wilson saw Jeremy on a daily basis and she said the opposite in her statements
Who knew JB better Barbara or Mugfords mother
She probably only met Jeremy on a handful of occasions


He admitted he didn't get along with her and other witnesses said the same thing.


Open your eyes Skip

The closest person to Sheila her boyfriend said Sheila and Jeremy got on well
Fact



You are describing yourself.  You are the Queen of projection- which is a defense mechanism you probably never heard of though you practice it regularly.

Your supposed facts aren't.  You ignore all the significant issues in this case and don't have the first damn clue about the facts and evidence adduced at trial.

You just make generalized claims supportive of Jeremy insisting he is innocent.

Dismissing evidence doesn't make it go away it must be refuted.  Posting fake facts doesn't refute the evidence it just makes you look sad.

The first step in trying to refute the evidence is to learn what the evidence was and fully understand it.  Of his hardcore supporters the only one actually familiar with the evidence is Mike.  He can't that evidence with anything legitimate though so resorts to all sorts of claims that have shot his credibility to hell and result in few people even reading his posts let alone bothering to respond.

[ngb1066]

anyone can see shes being bullied,

I agree and it is unacceptable and must stop.

[Adam]

Jeremy failed his 'A' levels. Twice. Not so fantastic.

There is no mention of Jeremy farming when abroad. He did want to train to be a scuba diver & wrote to June demanding she sent over £1,500.00p.

Jeremy left NZ in a hurry after rumours about money going missing. When in the middle east, Jeremy asked his parents to send over more money, however after financing 15 months abroad,  they sent over an air ticket home.

When back in England, Jeremy lived at WHF. But rejected the chance to work on the farm. Deciding to work at Little Chef instead. Then returning to NZ.

Loved farming ?