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« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2014, 08:35:PM »
Not by anyone rationa because life goes on.  People who party afterwards get criticized but whether it deserves criticism depends ont he nature.  There is a difference between continuing to live one's life and changing to all play and no work.  Some people will work more to avoid their grief.  Some will dwell on things and even try to do things they think would please those they lost including keeping their legacy going.

Jeremy didn't try to keep their legacy going he quit farming the same day.  He didn't try to bury himself in work he quit working.  He went around trying to find what he could sell so he would have money to part with and that was the extent of work he did. 

He expressed no remorse or guilt for supposedly leaving out the murder weapon. 

He reacted the way someone would who won a big lottery jackpot. Actually some people who win the lottery refuse to quit and still work anyway.   



Which is as I said. There IS no book of rules when it comes to human behaviour -that prerogative is left to the law- but just because the do things differently to how we would do them, it doesn't mean that they're automatically guilty...........................OR INNOCENT EITHER!!!!!

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« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2014, 08:36:PM »
Alias the thing that got to me was he was selling his parents possessions probably most of them antiques that could have been in the family for generations this seems so cold and callous as if he could not wait to get his hands on the Estate.

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« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2014, 08:42:PM »
Alias the thing that got to me was he was selling his parents possessions probably most of them antiques that could have been in the family for generations this seems so cold and callous as if he could not wait to get his hands on the Estate.

I don´t know so much about this particular aspect of the case. What did he sell?

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« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2014, 08:44:PM »
Alias the thing that got to me was he was selling his parents possessions probably most of them antiques that could have been in the family for generations this seems so cold and callous as if he could not wait to get his hands on the Estate.



His actions COULD have revealed a long held and deep seated anger and resentment. It MAY have been about him never FEELING part of the family, in which case he'd have had no compunction about selling "family" pieces.

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« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2014, 09:02:PM »
I don´t know so much about this particular aspect of the case. What did he sell?

as far as I have seen Basil  Cock Was instructing  most of the family in respect of the possessions including the jewellery ,wallet etc. Not just Jeremy - he was telling the rest of them what to do as well.


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« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2014, 09:11:PM »
as far as I have seen Basil  Cock Was instructing  most of the family in respect of the possessions including the jewellery ,wallet etc. Not just Jeremy - he was telling the rest of them what to do as well.

I have so often heard that he sold antiques, but I have no idea what it was exactly about.

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« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2014, 09:27:PM »
I have so often heard that he sold antiques, but I have no idea what it was exactly about.

it came from Annes statement - she also sowed the seed by saying before the murders he had commented on some antique chairs and she was surprised that he knew about antiques.

Not sure if her words can be verified,

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« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2014, 09:31:PM »
it came from Annes statement - she also sowed the seed by saying before the murders he had commented on some antique chairs and she was surprised that he knew about antiques.

Not sure if her words can be verified,


I thought she said it of Brett -she may have been more surprised about his knowledge of antiques than BC's- but I could be wrong.

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« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2014, 09:33:PM »


His actions COULD have revealed a long held and deep seated anger and resentment. It MAY have been about him never FEELING part of the family, in which case he'd have had no compunction about selling "family" pieces.

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« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2014, 09:33:PM »
One thing is interesting, and that is Brett Collins´ utter silence about anything to do with this case. Has he ever opened his mouth to defend his friend?

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« Reply #100 on: September 03, 2014, 09:42:PM »
One thing is interesting, and that is Brett Collins´ utter silence about anything to do with this case. Has he ever opened his mouth to defend his friend?


Alias, we had a New Zealand guy join us some time back. He had apparently known Brett Collins who comes over as a bit of a wide boy who dabbled in a bit of everything. He was asked about the possibility of a robbery concerning Rolex and Cartier watches. He said there was so little big crime out there that it would have been well known had it happened but Knowing what he did of Brett any supposedly nicked watches of that calibre were probably fakes, the stop overs en route being the obvious places to buy them.

It's not Jeremy's guilt that I object to as much as the myths which have grown up around it as proof of it eg he nicked watches, he was friends with gays, he "master minded" a burglary, he put his feet up on a desk, etc etc etc.
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« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2014, 10:08:PM »

Alias, we had a New Zealand guy join us some time back. He had apparently known Brett Collins who comes over as a bit of a wide boy who dabbled in a bit of everything. He was asked about the possibility of a robbery concerning Rolex and Cartier watches. He said there was so little big crime out there that it would have been well known had it happened but Knowing what he did of Brett any supposedly nicked watches of that calibre were probably fakes, the stop overs en route being the obvious places to buy them.

It's not Jeremy's guilt that I object to as much as the myths which have grown up around it as proof of it eg he nicked watches, he was friends with gays, he "master minded" a burglary, he put his feet up on a desk, etc etc etc.

Yes - loads and loads of myths. From both sides, I might add.

Has Colin ever spoken publicly about the case?

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« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2014, 01:33:PM »
I will be posting a lot more about Peter Eaton tonight
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« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2014, 03:13:PM »
Alias the thing that got to me was he was selling his parents possessions probably most of them antiques that could have been in the family for generations this seems so cold and callous as if he could not wait to get his hands on the Estate.

Some people are sentimental and will keep everything that belonged to family members who passed on.

Others will be less sentimental and just keep the things they like and get rid of things they do not.

Usually though there is a period of time before they get to the point where they decide to deal with the items.  Unless multiple family members are around to inherit in which case there could be a fight over who gets to the stuff first and there is a fight over who plunders first. 

Jeremy thought many of the items were more valuable than they turned out to be.  He even went to plunder Sheila's flat, he did this pretty early on rather than a griving period and then after that period dealing with their property.  He wasn't working and drawing  aslary, he needed money so was trying to see what he could unload quickly but at the same time was assessing the value of items he thought would be worth a bundle to see how much he would ultimately be able to get.

It is not surprising he falls into the category of not wanting to keep anything and just being interested in the money.  It is also not surprising that he didn't wait for a period of time grieving before looking at the items to decide whether he wanted to keep them or what.  These actions are in accordance with the picture painted by the prosecution of a man who cared about money so much he stole from his family's business and killed them all in order to be the sole heir.   

Naturally his supporters try to blame it on Cock and come up with other excuses to try to pretend that he did grieve and didn't care about disposing of the assets right away but clearly he did look at the value of the property right away.  It took many months before we started dealing with the furnishings and goods owned by my late grandmothers. Deciding what to keep, what to offer other family and friends and then what to do with what remains can actually be a daunting task.  A lot of times you have no use for something and yet have a problem parting with it anyway simply because it was owned by a loved one. He had no such attachments for rather obvious reasons so his biggest problem was valuing the property not deciding what to get rid of.

He was said to have considered selling nude pictures of his sister so that says it all I think.  Some people are remorseful after they kill while others are not.  Obviously he wasn't so had no motivation to keep their belongings. 

 
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