Innocent or Guilty?

[guest154]

Not sure how showing a photo of June, Jeremy AND Sheila is supposed to make it less likely Jeremy is guilty because it shows him with a happy family.......that also include Sheila. 

That's Jackie logic right there.

[JackiePreece]

Probably Mat a boringly normal photo of a family enjoying a special day

[guest154]

Yeah, a family photo that you are using for your own personal vendetta. I don't see how it makes Jeremy anymore innocent/guilty than it does Sheila since they are both in the photographs. Just a case of seeing what you want to see and ignoring everything else.

[nugnug]

ive seen that photo many times in many newspapers blogs and documentarys whats the big deal about it being posted here.

[JackiePreece]

Yeah, a family photo that you are using for your own personal vendetta. I don't see how it makes Jeremy anymore innocent/guilty than it does Sheila since they are both in the photographs. Just a case of seeing what you want to see and ignoring everything else.

There has to be a motive to commit a murder
There was not in this case
That's a fact that cannot be disputed

[guest154]

There has to be a motive to commit a murder
There was not in this case
That's a fact that cannot be disputed

Wrong. A clear motive has been firmly established.

[Jan]

Yeah, a family photo that you are using for your own personal vendetta. I don't see how it makes Jeremy anymore innocent/guilty than it does Sheila since they are both in the photographs. Just a case of seeing what you want to see and ignoring everything else.

because if Sheila did it we think she was very ill and therefore it would not have been murder with malice aforethought.

[JackiePreece]

Wrong. A clear motive has been firmly established.

No definately not and if the jury had been given all the FACTS he would have walked

[lookout]

As I've already said,the motive lay with Sheila whose children wouldn't be under her full care. All she would have gained would have been visiting rights if Colin had overall charge of them.Because Neville was in agreeance to that arrangement,he was then seen as letting Sheila down badly. The only person who she'd thought would have backed her up,but didn't,so she must have felt that everyone was against her. Her mind must have been pure torture to have lost her children to her ex-husband and his new girlfriend,further rubbing salt into the wound.

Even Dr Ferguson had to agree that a discussion such as had gone on would have been enough to have set off a psychotic episode.

Sheila wouldn't have meant what she did as her thoughts would have been with the boys and her not wanting them to be with anyone but herself.Very very sad,but so understandable under the circumstances of a sick persons' mind.

[lookout]

 There is documentary evidence supporting DNA tests,written by J.Hayward in 1985,which showed that blood inside a moderator belonged to RWB,or a mixture of June and Neville ( Totally unrelated to Sheila )
Though interestingly,RWB shared the same blood grouping as Sheila but at no time did it mention that the blood was Sheilas'.
Members of the jury weren't informed of this,so they naturally assumed that the blood belonged to Sheila.

Also,DNA found on a rifle of an un-named male could have been that of Neville,AP or RWB.DNA not necessarily meaning blood.

[Adam]

There is documentary evidence supporting DNA tests,written by J.Hayward in 1985,which showed that blood inside a moderator belonged to RWB,or a mixture of June and Neville ( Totally unrelated to Sheila )
Though interestingly,RWB shared the same blood grouping as Sheila but at no time did it mention that the blood was Sheilas'.
Members of the jury weren't informed of this,so they naturally assumed that the blood belonged to Sheila.

Also,DNA found on a rifle of an un-named male could have been that of Neville,AP or RWB.DNA not necessarily meaning blood.

If the blood just belonged to Neville & June that is also damning towards Jeremy. 

It means Sheila took the silencer off and put it neatly away in the gun cupboard downstairs. Not really the actions of a crazy woman.

It also means Sheila put the silencer on the rifle before shooting. Why would she do this and would Neville let her ?

[lookout]

If Sheila had committed suicide with the silencer attached,why wasn't there more blood inside it than a tiny little flake ? Blood would have travelled along the silencer and not conveniently halted to form the elusive flake !

[Adam]

If Sheila had committed suicide with the silencer attached,why wasn't there more blood inside it than a tiny little flake ? Blood would have travelled along the silencer and not conveniently halted to form the elusive flake !

The rifle was too long for her to commit suicide with the silencer attached.

[lookout]

No it wasn't.

[Jan]

If the blood just belonged to Neville & June that is also damning towards Jeremy. 

It means Sheila took the silencer off and put it neatly away in the gun cupboard downstairs. Not really the actions of a crazy woman.

It also means Sheila put the silencer on the rifle before shooting. Why would she do this and would Neville let her ?

the argument was that blood would only get inside the moderator from a contact shot - so how would there be blood in there from Neville and june ? So does that not tell you something?

have a think about it.