Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[nugnug]

there working pro bono theyve all said.

how much money could they be making doing something else if they wernt doing it

you dont do that unless you belive in what your doing.

[Jan]

to be fair they can chose their pro-bono work - so they may have taken it on as it is probably one of the biggest challenges they will ever get.

[JackiePreece]

To be fair I probably don't know the case in sufficient detail to give an informed decision as there are so many documents / witness statements I haven't had access to or haven't had time to read.

When I first covered the case during my law degree I though he was innocent and when I first joined this forum I prob thought him about 70% innocent.

As time has passed my belief in his innocence has diminished and I say with the caveat that I haven't seen anywhere near enough documents to give an informed opinion, that I am now erring slightly towards guilt.

Notwithstanding this, the investigation was flawed, jb's initial defence team let him down and from what I have seen I'm not convinced the prosecution reached the required threshold to establish guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

However, I also haven't seen anything credible on this forum or heard of anything credible to overturn his conviction.

Which documents you have read make you err towards guilty

[nugnug]

to be fair they can chose their pro-bono work - so they may have taken it on as it is probably one of the biggest challenges they will ever get.

exactly you can chose so your not obliged to help somone you think is guilty.

[guest154]

Mat - I think that is  a very personal post - my parents always taught me two wrongs don't make a right.

It's just an opinion. I'm sure you'd hold her in a low regard if she'd ever managed to access your personal details too.

He didn't send me one,but I too am used to his behaviour. Something wrong with folk like that.I've actually nursed them !! It's known as being paranoid.

Paranoid?  I've nothing to be paranoid over, Lookout. Not sure what "folk like that" you've nursed but with the way you speak about people I doubt you've ever been in a position to actually nurse anyone.

Mat sent me a threatening pm the first day he was on the forum so I am used to his behaviour

I told you to piss off accusing me of being Ann Eaton and John Lamberton and that you were a freak! Because from the moment I joined you and Grahame were obsessed I was a paid member of the family. As for threatening, you were asked to produce it by the mods and as usual you were lying.

[scipio_usmc]

to be fair they can chose their pro-bono work - so they may have taken it on as it is probably one of the biggest challenges they will ever get.

You take on a high profile case pro bono for the free publicity.

[nugnug]

so how come nobody's ever heard of most of them.

[No-Bits]

That is simply not true

Not even in this case I suspect.

[No-Bits]

Mat - I think that is  a very personal post - my parents always taught me two wrongs don't make a right.

At least you appear to recognise the first wrong.

To be fair to Mat, he's simply offered his opinion, and I must admit, it's kinda difficult to find a fault with it. 

[Caroline]

Try quoting facts and stopping being rude because this must be the only power you have

I will be as rude to you as you are to me. Unlike you, I don't need any power - I'm not the one pretending to hold confidential info and if I did, I wouldn't be bragging about it on here. Practice what you preach!

[scipio_usmc]

I will be as rude to you as you are to me. Unlike you, I don't need any power - I'm not the one pretending to hold confidential info and if I did, I wouldn't be bragging about it on here. Practice what you preach!

Forget confidential info she is not even aware of the information in the public domain most of which is posted on this website.   What she knowns about the releavant facts seems to be nil.

[Caroline]

Forget confidential info she is not even aware of the information in the public domain most of which is posted on this website.   What she knowns about the releavant facts seems to be nil.

I did just say 'claims' - I've yet to see her answer any question put to her. She just chants the mantra that 'He loved farming' blah, blah - blah, blah!! 

[No-Bits]

Thanks Nugs

Skip, Adam, Mat, Caroline, Susan are all one of a kind

The forum isn't a popularity contest and if I was the last one on this forum who believed Jeremy was innocent I wouldn't care. If I believe there has been a great injustice I will fight for things to be put right

As most people know I have over 2000 followers on twitter of mainly legal people and news people and they are certainly NOT of the same opinion of Caroline and her mob

I don't even know Jeremy that well but I have done more research on him than anyone that believes he is guilty

The facts are

He loved farming
He loved his family
He loved his life
He got on well with his sister
He has no history of violence
He had no money worries

Just an ordinary young man

There's a lot more to come out in this case, I know that for sure

Humph!   

Speaking of popularity,  how come I didn't get a mention? 

[scipio_usmc]

Humph!   

Speaking of popularity,  how come I didn't get a mention? 

Since her facts are so clearly made up and baseless I would not worry about her lack of listing you among her foes.

While she wants blind followers I don't, I want people to agree with me because of sound arguments and evidence not because of ignorance or irrationality.

 

[Jane]

Humph!   

Speaking of popularity,  how come I didn't get a mention? 

Awwww there there