Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[Alias]

Alias, do you not think that "Hi, darling, everything is going well (with me but?)....................." is a somewhat inappropriate thing to say having got her out of bed in the middle of the night? Why would she need to know all was well with him? Surely the important thing was what may be happening at the harm.

I think she would have said: "Why are you calling me in the middle of the night, are you OK?" Or words to that effect - would be natural; and his response would be: "Everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
It makes sense.

[Jane]

I think she would have said: "Why are you calling me in the middle of the night, are you OK?" Or words to that effect - would be natural; and his response would be: "Everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
It makes sense.

I could be wrong, but it all sounds a touch too casual. I think if he'd been frantic with worry he'd have ignored her questions -which, incidentally DO make sense- and responded with words to the effect of "I'm sorry, but something is wrong at the farm" OR "No. I'm worried sick. I've just had this call from dad".

[nugnug]

its hard to work out a normal reaction because its not a normal situation

[Jane]

its hard to work out a normal reaction because its not a normal situation

You're right there, Nugs

[nugnug]

it sounds a bit to causal to me as well but i don't know how it was said in what tone of voice and not knowing him i couldent say how hes likely to react in a crises.

[lookout]

Who else could Jeremy have rang at that hour of the morning ? The relatives weren't close,more's the pity because if he had been able to ring them then he wouldn't have had such scathing accusations made against him.

[Jane]

it sounds a bit to causal to me as well but i don't know how it was said in what tone of voice and not knowing him i couldent say how hes likely to react in a crises.

That's an excellent point, Nugs. The tone of the voice would have given a bigger clue than the words themselves.

[gringo]

I think she would have said: "Why are you calling me in the middle of the night, are you OK?" Or words to that effect - would be natural; and his response would be: "Everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
It makes sense.

I think that is plausible, Alias.
    The idea that Jeremy didn't call 999 in order to delay the police defies credibility. The police sped to the incident because of what was said anyway. Would he have said something different on a 999 call? and if not then why would the police burst in depending on which number was called?
     Whether he dialled 999 or not the incident was being dealt with as an emergency for obvious reasons.

[Caroline]

I think that is plausible, Alias.
    The idea that Jeremy didn't call 999 in order to delay the police defies credibility. The police sped to the incident because of what was said anyway. Would he have said something different on a 999 call? and if not then why would the police burst in depending on which number was called?
     Whether he dialled 999 or not the incident was being dealt with as an emergency for obvious reasons.

What defies credibility is to believe that Jeremy would have been framed bu EP when half the force knew a call had been received from his father and that Jeremy was innocent.

[gringo]

its hard to work out a normal reaction because its not a normal situation

  And because all people/families have their own idiosyncrasies you cannot say what people's reactions to stressful situations would be normal for them individually anyway.
    I think some people try to read too much into Jeremy's behaviour and reactions on the night .

[Alias]

I think that is plausible, Alias.
    The idea that Jeremy didn't call 999 in order to delay the police defies credibility. The police sped to the incident because of what was said anyway. Would he have said something different on a 999 call? and if not then why would the police burst in depending on which number was called?
     Whether he dialled 999 or not the incident was being dealt with as an emergency for obvious reasons.

And anyway, what would be the difference for Jeremy, 999 or local police? Why would he have any interest in delaying anything - he could as well have called 999 if he were the killer.

[Alias]

What defies credibility is to believe that Jeremy would have been framed bu EP when half the force knew a call had been received from his father and that Jeremy was innocent.

Sure - probably that call wasn´t made. Wording on copied log odd and illogical though, which opens wide up for speculation.

[lookout]

The bottom line is that he didn't know what to do for the best,and he certainly didn't realise the severity of the situation. In fact he didn't know what was going on,it's as simple as that.

[nugnug]

What defies credibility is to believe that Jeremy would have been framed bu EP when half the force knew a call had been received from his father and that Jeremy was innocent.

i know im being slightly irrelevant here but the west midlands police were fully aware the birmingham 6 were innocent but they still went ahead and framed them anyway.

another case is stephen kisko were the police were fully aware of innocence.

[gringo]

What defies credibility is to believe that Jeremy would have been framed bu EP when half the force knew a call had been received from his father and that Jeremy was innocent.

But you still believe he was framed anyway so how many of EP knew in your scenario that he was framed but guilty? Half of them? All of them?
   And it is you saying that half of EP knew a call had been received from his father not me so don't put words into my mouth to make your argument. Why would "half the force" know a call had been received?