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Re: Chelmsford police station control room clocks
« Reply #105 on: August 23, 2014, 09:13:PM »


So she had actually only received one dose of the reduced prescription?

Yes, two weeks prior to the murders.

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« Reply #106 on: August 23, 2014, 10:01:PM »
I don't think a single person realised what a desperate state she was in. Some people tried but I don't think anyone did.  What a poor beautiful sensitive girl
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« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2014, 12:19:AM »
So she had actually only received one dose of the reduced prescription?

Yes she was given it orally while in the hospital then an injection shortly before her April release. That means her first month to be injected by her GP was May. The July 11 injection was the first reduced one.  Had she lived to get her injection around August 11 it too would likely have been the reduced amount even though Ferguson had not yet officially changed it.

While they suspected she was not taking her Procyclidine no one did anything to find out why not.  Since it was not needed for her underlying disorder but simply to treat the side effects of her medication no one seemed to care that she wasn't taking it.



   
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« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2014, 12:28:AM »
Dr. Ferguson was washing his hands. He seemed to be an irresponsible doctor- he knew that Sheila used cocane frequently, he knew about her outlandish thoughts about her sons being the Devil´s children and that she was afraid they might rape and kill her.

How about this, Dr. Ferguson: Sheila I would say was a loving mother. She had delusions that her sons were trying to seduce her.

Makes a lot of sense - NOT!



Sorry - maybe we should split the thread?  :-[

He said she told him she had delusions about them before her initial treatment in 1983.  He also said that she had delusions about her mother.  She had none about Nevill who she had a good relationship with.  Furthermore, after her initial treatment she never told him about any delusions about the family anymore.  She did have delusions about Freddie and though he was with her a long time as she was having delusions she didn't hurt him.  Interestingly she recognized no one except Nevill and upon seeing him she became coherent and rational.  That is the genesis of the notion, "Nevill had a calming effect on her".



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Re: Chelmsford police station control room clocks
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2014, 12:43:AM »
He said she told him she had delusions about them before her initial treatment in 1983.  He also said that she had delusions about her mother.  She had none about Nevill who she had a good relationship with.  Furthermore, after her initial treatment she never told him about any delusions about the family anymore.  She did have delusions about Freddie and though he was with her a long time as she was having delusions she didn't hurt him.  Interestingly she recognized no one except Nevill and upon seeing him she became coherent and rational.  That is the genesis of the notion, "Nevill had a calming effect on her".

A mental illness isn´t static. Just because Nevill had been able to calm her down in the past, there is no guarantee there wouldn´t come a point where he couldn´t.

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« Reply #110 on: August 24, 2014, 01:30:AM »
A mental illness isn´t static. Just because Nevill had been able to calm her down in the past, there is no guarantee there wouldn´t come a point where he couldn´t.

From very personal experience, this is true!
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Re: Chelmsford police station control room clocks
« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2014, 10:23:AM »
A mental illness isn´t static. Just because Nevill had been able to calm her down in the past, there is no guarantee there wouldn´t come a point where he couldn´t.





Those in Sheilas' case,sadly get worse as time goes on because of on-going issues in their lives with which they can't cope with. Anything can " tip them over the edge ". Those issues that WE can solve,they can't,and so their condition worsens.
As was plainly and clearly stated,Sheilas' condition had deteriorated. Deterioration in a patient,is NOT a good sign,regardless of what illness they suffer.
Deterioration in anyones understanding means WORSENING ! Sheila was very sick !