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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #135 on: December 17, 2014, 02:24:PM »
Please show me the post where I said you suggested the fake burglary.

I said other posters have.

Nobody has. You have made this up after I said Jeremy´s better option was to just leave the farm, leave the door unlocked, without staging a suicide after having to shoot Sheila twice. I am in no mood to explain this yet again!!!

Now everybody is discussing this non-thing.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #136 on: December 17, 2014, 02:29:PM »
Nobody has. You have made this up after I said Jeremy´s better option was to just leave the farm, leave the door unlocked, without staging a suicide after having to shoot Sheila twice. I am in no mood to explain this yet again!!!

Now everybody is discussing this non-thing.

Other posters have always claimed ringing the police, creating the siege and insinuating Sheila was not his best option.

Saying he could create a fake break in. They know who they are. Now everyone is denying it after I showed how ridiculous it is.

You have gone one stage further claiming a random person/psychopath could have broken in. Thread created yesterday showing how ridiculous this is. Feel free to respond to the thread.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #137 on: December 17, 2014, 02:31:PM »
Other posters have always claimed ringing the police, creating the siege and insinuating Sheila was not his best option.

Saying he could create a fake break in. They know who they are. Now everyone is denying it after I showed how ridiculous it is.

You have gone one stage further claiming a random person/psychopath could have broken in. Thread created yesterday showing how ridiculous this is. Feel free to respond to the thread.

No, this is happening in your own head. How did, "leaving the door open" become what you say?

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #138 on: December 17, 2014, 02:33:PM »
Adam you could well have come across doggies that don't bark all the ones I have met bark (maybe the effect I have on them) ;D Bruce was an outside dog but Crispy was I am told a yappy little dog that did not like Jeremy the feeling was mutual I believe.  I firmly believe Jeremy was already in the house as suggested by Caroline and after the shootings started the doggie would be traumatised and would hide dogs do not like gunshots unless they are trained to the gun.

Please remind me of the question I failed to answer  as I appear to have overlooked it.  I will endeavour to do my best and give you an honest answer.
The dog that was kept outside was definitely used as a BARKING watch dog. That is the reason they had no burglar alarm obviously. Which is more logical Adam's (I have a dog not to bark), or A dog, 2 dogs that were obviously kept was watch dogs? Why was crispy kept inside and the other dog kept outside? Logical reason, because the outside dog was a watch dog and would have definitely barked at any noise heard that night. Let's put it this way. A dog is much more likely to bark than not to bark. Personally I would like to know where to buy one of these silent dogs.
Of course it is logical to assume a dog would bark at any noises heard at night. The only reason that someone would deny it is if such a barking dog would not fit into their fairy tail scenario. Simples.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #139 on: December 17, 2014, 02:36:PM »
The dog that was kept outside was definitely used as a BARKING watch dog. That is the reason they had no burglar alarm obviously. Which is more logical Adam's (I have a dog not to bark), or A dog, 2 dogs that were obviously kept was watch dogs? Why was crispy kept inside and the other dog kept outside? Logical reason, because the outside dog was a watch dog and would have definitely barked at any noise heard that night. Let's put it this way. A dog is much more likely to bark than not to bark. Personally I would like to know where to buy one of these silent dogs.
Of course it is logical to assume a dog would bark at any noises heard at night. The only reason that someone would deny it is if such a barking dog would not fit into their fairy tail scenario. Simples.






I think Basenjis' are South African dogs ( barkless ) so if you set out now,you'll be back before Christmas. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #140 on: December 17, 2014, 02:36:PM »
No, this is happening in your own head. How did, "leaving the door open" become what you say?

You said he could have just left the door open.

Creating the impression of a burglary gone wrong. Or random stranger who had the urge to pop into WHF. And massacre men women and children.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 02:38:PM by Adam »
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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #141 on: December 17, 2014, 02:37:PM »
Please show me the post where I said you suggested the fake burglary.

I said other posters have.
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What do you believe Jeremy's best framing option was -

Sheila

Fake robbery.

Fake random stranger/psychopath.
You have obviously implied that because I mentioned burglars that I was inventing a fake robbery. Otherwise why would you mentio it in an answer to my post?

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #142 on: December 17, 2014, 02:38:PM »
People I know with dogs put them in a room when they go out. Otherwise the dog could charge around their house messing up things, ruining furniture etc. Ditto at night when people want to sleep.

This was no doubt the case at WHF. Jeremy may have had to enter the room where Crispy was after the massacre. Or may have wanted to have Crispy roaming around. To give the impression Neville had not gone to bed.
Show me where the dog was put away by Jeremy.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #143 on: December 17, 2014, 02:39:PM »
Here: You have obviously implied that because I mentioned burglars that I was inventing a fake robbery. Otherwise why would you mentio it in an answer to my post?

Eh ?

This was a question to Susan.
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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #144 on: December 17, 2014, 02:39:PM »
No other people have said Jeremy could have created a fake burglary. Or random stranger/psychopath break in. He he.

The dog may not have woken. Or been unresponsive. It was not a guard dog.



Following those lines, elephants might fly and you will -HOPEFULLY- do the same. FFS WHY would we want to talk about hypothetics.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #145 on: December 17, 2014, 02:40:PM »
No, this is happening in your own head. How did, "leaving the door open" become what you say?
I think HE needs to see a psychiatrist?

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #146 on: December 17, 2014, 02:41:PM »
You said he could have just left the door open.

Creating the impression of a burglary gone wrong. Or random stranger who had the urge to pop into WHF.

Keeping the option of a third party open, yes. After having had to shoot Sheila twice, that would be a better option, in my opinion, instead of painting himself into a corner with the staging and the made up phone call, which implicated only Jeremy or Sheila.
This is all hypothetical. You ask, was Jeremy´s best option to create a siege situation? My answer is, no, I don´t think so.
That is all - move on, Adam. I am not sure you understand all this, so I am moving on!
« Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 02:42:PM by Alias »

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #147 on: December 17, 2014, 02:43:PM »
Show me where the dog was put away by Jeremy.

Put away by Jeremy ?

I said dog owners put their dogs in shut doored rooms when they go out or go to bed.

WHF was big enough for Crispy to be put in a room by Neville/June before bed. Meaning Crispy was not a problem when Jeremy slipped through the loose window.
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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #148 on: December 17, 2014, 02:43:PM »
Eh ?

This was a question to Susan.
No this was a question to me:

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
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Quote from: Mr. Gee on Today at 01:44 PM

    I report Adam for being unbelievably stupid. I have never said that Jeremy created a fake burglary. Either he is being deliberately ignorant or he is genuinely one of the most stupid people I have sadly had to encounter? I have created both reasonable and logical posts thoroughly expecting him to reciprocate. But obviously I have mistakenly assumed that he has at least one brain cell. But sadly I cannot put any kind of logical argument to this imbecilic attitude. So I have given up on him as being unteachable. My year old grandson is more teachable than he is. Very sad indeed.

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Please show me the post where I said you suggested the fake burglary.

I said other posters have.

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Re: Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?
« Reply #149 on: December 17, 2014, 02:44:PM »
I think HE needs to see a psychiatrist?





Yep,something radically wrong !!