Was Sheila carried to the main bedroom ?

[Mr. Gee]

I have reported you to the moderators again. This is a discussion forum not somewhere where you can call someone's views pathetic.

I stuck up for you on Sunday, after Leo Mcginstrey called you 'creepy'. This is because I sufferred 'self denial' in Tenerife once when I got lost. Yours is much more long term as you refuse to accept the police, DPP, courts, and appeal courts are right.

June was shot with her head on the pillow. If you checked the photos you will see blood on the pillow. Thread already created. The weak rifle meant she was able to crawl a few feet.

Neville woke seconds before suffering the same fate. So was shot 4 times by the bed, next to June.

Simple.

Don't add stupidity to your pathetic traits Adam. Grow up perleeeeze.

[Mr. Gee]

No other people have said Jeremy could have created a fake burglary. Or random stranger/psychopath break in. He he.

The dog may not have woken. Or been unresponsive. It was not a guard dog.

Showing your ignorance once again are we Adam? On this occasion I am just going to leave you to stew in your own stupidity you galvanized twit. My pet monkey has more common sense than you.

[susan]

Adam I guess it had to be Sheila without a doubt.  Not saying this happened just my take on it

[susan]

Adam sorry cannot agree with you on this one a dog would bark at any intrusion that is what dogs do even if they knew you they will bark until they have established who the intruder was.

[susan]

Wow Mr. Gee did not know you had a pet monkey what age is the little sweetie.

[Mr. Gee]

I report Adam for being unbelievably stupid. I have never said that Jeremy created a fake burglary. Either he is being deliberately ignorant or he is genuinely one of the most stupid people I have sadly had to encounter? I have created both reasonable and logical posts thoroughly expecting him to reciprocate. But obviously I have mistakenly assumed that he has at least one brain cell. But sadly I cannot put any kind of logical argument to this imbecilic attitude. So I have given up on him as being unteachable. My year old grandson is more teachable than he is. Very sad indeed.

[Mr. Gee]

Wow Mr. Gee did not know you had a pet monkey what age is the little sweetie.

It is imaginary Susan. He is really my grandson and call call him a little monkey. But he is very smart and it is very sad when we see grown up people becoming less and less unteachable the older they get, as I see in Adam.

[Adam]

Adam sorry cannot agree with you on this one a dog would bark at any intrusion that is what dogs do even if they knew you they will bark until they have established who the intruder was.

I have come across dogs that don't bark. They don't even jump up and down. These are dogs that don't know me.

The dog may have slept. Not bothered reacting or recognised Jeremy and just ran around a bit. 

Some dogs are locked in rooms at night. Just as they are when the house is empty.

Why wasn't the dog brought up at trial ? Jeremy has never brought it up.

You did not answer my question on the previous page.

[susan]

Adam you could well have come across doggies that don't bark all the ones I have met bark (maybe the effect I have on them) Bruce was an outside dog but Crispy was I am told a yappy little dog that did not like Jeremy the feeling was mutual I believe.  I firmly believe Jeremy was already in the house as suggested by Caroline and after the shootings started the doggie would be traumatised and would hide dogs do not like gunshots unless they are trained to the gun.

Please remind me of the question I failed to answer  as I appear to have overlooked it.  I will endeavour to do my best and give you an honest answer.

[Adam]

What do you believe Jeremy's best framing option was -

Sheila

Fake robbery.

Fake random stranger/psychopath.

?

[Adam]

People I know with dogs put them in a room when they go out. Otherwise the dog could charge around their house messing up things, ruining furniture etc. Ditto at night when people want to sleep.

This was no doubt the case at WHF. Jeremy may have had to enter the room where Crispy was after the massacre. Or may have wanted to have Crispy roaming around. To give the impression Neville had not gone to bed.

[susan]

Mr Gee what a girl I am I believed you had a pet monkey they are very intelligent though as I am sure your little grandson is

[Adam]

I report Adam for being unbelievably stupid. I have never said that Jeremy created a fake burglary. Either he is being deliberately ignorant or he is genuinely one of the most stupid people I have sadly had to encounter? I have created both reasonable and logical posts thoroughly expecting him to reciprocate. But obviously I have mistakenly assumed that he has at least one brain cell. But sadly I cannot put any kind of logical argument to this imbecilic attitude. So I have given up on him as being unteachable. My year old grandson is more teachable than he is. Very sad indeed.

Please show me the post where I said you suggested the fake burglary.

I said other posters have.

[susan]

Adam I thought I answered your question I think Jeremy tried to blame Sheila for the murders or am I picking you up wrong

[susan]

Adam I saw a wee doggie basket at the side of the Aga and I suspect that is where Crispy slept.  Even if a doggie is locked in another room one would still hear the barking but if Jeremy was already in the house the doggie would have no need to bark.