Bullets and Moderator

[Alias]

I know nothing about firearms, but had this thought: would you be able to see on a bullet whether it had been fired from a gun with a moderator attached or no moderator?
Would there be any marks, indentations on the bullets perhaps, that would not be there if the gun had no moderator attached?

[lookout]

This is what I wanted to know,Alias.

[nugnug]

i don't theirs any difference.


as far as i know a silencer does not in anyway change the bullets.

[lookout]

Are you sure about that,nugs ?

[nugnug]

the silence doesn't interact with the gun that much all it does is muffle the noise it dosent change anything about the gun.

if it was possble to prove a silencer was used that would of been the first thing the prosecution tried to do.

[lookout]

Yes,of course they'd look for marks/signs,,if they'd thought to do so.

[Alias]

the silence doesn't interact with the gun that much all it does is muffle the noise it dosent change anything about the gun.

if it was possble to prove a silencer was used that would of been the first thing the prosecution tried to do.

It could have been overlooked.
There could be a difference on the bullets. You can identify a weapon by firing bullets through it and comare them with bullets you have found at a crime scene - so bullets are affected differently from gun to gun.
Then why wouldn´t there be a difference discernible on a bullet fired from the same weapon with or without silenecer?
Or - there could be. It would be worth testing in my opinion.

[lookout]

I'm going to look it up.

[lookout]

So far,I'm reading about bullets being fired out of a gun which match the gun they're fired from,,by means of using a macroscope,not microscope,to examine the striations on the outside of the bullet to match the same striations within the cylinder of the gun.
I wonder if they bothered to even do this ?

[lookout]

Cartridge cases too are identifiable as to which firearm was used.They form the same striated marks as do the bullets,in connection to the firearm.

[Jan]

The two bullets that cause sheilas death were different weights and had different LAN marks

I also believe that some of the bullets were not even confirmed as being fired through the rifle let alone the silencer

but I try and avoid this area because enough experts have argued about it already  and I don't know enough .

[Jan]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3225.msg203008.html#msg203008

I think there are posts about the bullets going through silencer but I don't think there is any way to establish that.

[Jan]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,710.msg19188.html#msg19188

[lookout]

There's quite a lot involved during the firing of a gun. How it was fired ( velocity ) can be told by the cartridge being highly magnified. Recoil,given the speed of the shooting.Ejector marks showing striations or impressions which are used to identify the firearm.
Using a moderator reduces the velocity,which should have been another marker as to whether one was used or not.

Something else I've read,and that's that a coolant is used after a few firings.Was this ever picked up on ? 

[lookout]

When a bullet hasn't travelled fast enough,it will still hit its target,but will break up inside its target. Mmmm.

Which brings me to the first shot that Sheila received ( not-self delivered ) but by someone else,when the silencer could well have been left on at that point,before being put to one side.
Sheila didn't to my mind,administer that first shot to herself. The second is questionable too.