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Offline scipio_usmc

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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 04:15:PM »
to be fair , if I was on that jury and then I saw that article and the photos then I think I would have felt pretty sick, whether or not the contract was signed before. Perhaps I should not judge people my  own morals , but as I said before she comes over as some kind of tart  and definitely a person seeking attention and with an agenda. Extremely disrespectful to the victim and the family . IMO

If she was seeking attention then why did she refuse to do anymore deals when the press continued to hound her?  She could have made a lot more money and have had a lot more exposure. Why did she refuse all deals thrown at her each time he was in the news?  From 1989 to the present there have been at least 6 different times the media gave a lot of coverage to the case and they would have loved to have interviewed her.

It seems to me the people with the agenda are those to try to discredit her testimony because she gave a single paid interview.  Who would have such an agenda?  Jeremy's advocates of course because they can't discredit what she said about Jeremy plotting the murders in any competent manner they call her crediiblity into question with the stupid claim she made a deal to convict him and made up lies to accomplish same though she told her story well before that.

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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2014, 04:26:PM »
Julie had the option to contribute to Wilkes's book, which Jeremy contributed to.

This would have been without a fee so people could not accuse her of doing it for money. However she could have twisted the knife, but chose not to.

To her the matter is closed, she approached the police, gave a WS & testified. Not retracting a word of her statement. The jury made their verdict.
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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2014, 06:41:PM »
 Erm------in Wilkes book Julie had told her friends that she was trying to " persuade Jeremy to think that money wasn't everything !" Blimey,that's rich coming from her.

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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 03:56:AM »
She said no such thing.  She said that NOTW wanted a story regardless of the outcome of the case. 

Do you ever bother to read any of the statements you cite?  Do you not read them and just make things up or do you read claims made by others and instead of researching to see if they are true you just run with the claims?
  Had Jeremy been found not guilty then Mugford's story would have been worthless so of course it was dependent on a guilty verdict and to claim otherwise is absurd. Mugford claiming that they wanted a story regardless of the outcome makes no sense at all and is obviously a self serving lie.

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 04:07:AM »
Why didn't you ask that question to Jackie?

Here was the claim:

"How do you think the jury felt when they saw Mugford had been paid for an article in the NOW on condition she helped secure a guilty convicted"

How did the jury see that Mugford was paid for an article that required her to help secure a guilrty verdict?  What evidence was offered.

You admit that she did not retain a copy becuase she had no need to retain it so could not show the copy when asked about it years later. 

People who say Jeremy was approached with an offer for a story if he were found innocent made the stupid allegation the opposite deal was made to Julie.  Such a contract would have been illegal.  A lawyer negotiated the contract Mugford did not do so herself.  The notion the lawyer would have negotiated such a contract is absurd. 

The defense never found any evidence to establish Julie signed any deal before the trial was over let alone any evidence the contract required a conviction.

Jackie is claiming there was a public revelation an ilelgal contract had been signed and said she wonders what the jury thought of it.  She is of course full of crap there was no such revelation just unsupported allegations.
  The jury need only have read the following week's News of the Screws to see that Mugford was paid to help secure a guilty verdict.
      Do you honestly believe that the contract being illegal would have made the slightest difference to the NOTW ? You are deluded if you think that the illegality of anything would have prevented the NOTW from doing it anyway.

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2014, 08:03:AM »
Thank you For posting that Gringo
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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 08:08:AM »
Julie had the option to contribute to Wilkes's book, which Jeremy contributed to.

This would have been without a fee so people could not accuse her of doing it for money. However she could have twisted the knife, but chose not to.

To her the matter is closed, she approached the police, gave a WS & testified. Not retracting a word of her statement. The jury made their verdict.

Really is that so Adam?

She did that interview before the wonderful invention of the www web

She thought she could make money out of someone else's heartbreak and tragedy

Well one day her children will see that article and see what there mother did

She thought she would forgotton, never
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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 12:58:PM »
Really is that so Adam?

She did that interview before the wonderful invention of the www web

She thought she could make money out of someone else's heartbreak and tragedy

Well one day her children will see that article and see what there mother did

She thought she would forgotton, never

They are big enough to have already seen it - and other things about their mother. It is all online! GASP, poor boys!

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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2014, 01:40:PM »
Alias I have just had the misfortune to read again  the statement Mugford gave for the 2002 appeal

Everyone should read them on this forum and you will see she lies and lies over again and tries to make excuses for the photos in the NOW

How a court of law could have accepted this is beyond me

Plain and simple she wanted to make money

She was always prepared to do anything for money

How someone is serving a full life tarif because of the testimony of Mugford is inconceivable


Take her out of the equation and how does the case hold up

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2014, 01:42:PM »
Is Mr Church of ellisons solicitors still alive and couldn't he be persuaded to tell the truth about the NOTW deal
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2014, 01:47:PM »
 Julia Mugford and the media..
I have been asked to recount my dealings with the media in relation to this trial.

My first recollection of any direct involvement with the media was in the month following Jeremys arrest.

 I was approached many times by persons claiming to be reporters.

They came to my house, they followed me. They approached me in a petrol station, in bus queues, one jumped on a bus to approach me, it was harrassment of me and my family. They knew where I was, there were many offers of money, they were very overt. I just wanted them to go away. Peaks of approach were after his arrest and before trial when it was intense. It did go quiet in between. I asked them to go away, I refused and even ran away on occasions. I couldn't have a normal life they turned up at my school.

The Headmistress considered it a detriment to the children due to my profile in that I was associated with an alleged murderer. I was given leave with pay. At this time I believe I went to a lawyer due to the press harassment and my enforced suspension from work.

I didn't have a lawyer so having received general advice to see one I believe I asked my mother to assist me. I eventually met Mr CHURCH of Ellisons Solicitors Colchester. This was not a family lawyer or someone I had spoken to previously. I went to the lawyer seeking two pieces of advice. Firstly, how to stop the press bothering me and my family, secondly, was it right that the school could prevent me from working.

 I would like to make it clear that I had no financial motivation in relation to the press.

 My only desire was to stop the harassment. However, after the consultation my lawyer advised me that the only way was in fact to contract to one press body exclusively, which by default would prevent others from making an approach.

 I probably told him that monetary offers had been made and that the press had told me that they were interested in my story whatever the verdict.The lawyer made the deal until I was presented with the contract I had no ideas who the other party was. He made the deal in my personal interest. I gave no direction with regard to finance. He told me that getting the money was part of the contract even though I had no financial motivation. I was not involved in his discussions with the other party. I now understand that he took the highest bidder which was the News of the World Newspaper. He told me he negotiated to get the best financial reward. I have been asked to try and remember exactly when this happened. I cannot remember but I can say that media harassment continued during the trial.

 I cannot identify specific dates for specific events i.e. signing the contract but I feel sure that the solicitors records would confirm this. I am confident that I told the police what I was doing at all times. I probably only saw the lawyer three times, I did have a moral dilemna. It was a consideration that this was somehow blood money but I was prepared to accept advice in order to get them off my back. In relation to contract details my memories are as follows:-


(a) This was a one - off


(b) They had rights to republish the material


(c) I had to sit for photographs


(d) I had editorial rights


(e) They could re - use the material


(f) I was not to talk to anyone


I do not believe there was any form of retainer or ongoing conditions.

 In relation to the photographs I was very unhappy about there demands. But as pointed out to me I had to comply with contract details.

 I clearly Skim read the contract and missed a lot of the detail; Today I read all the small print. I had editorial rights but the published article did not comply with my recollection of the agreed content. It seemed to read quite differently in the end, I obviously wasn't with it enough to contest it at the time.

The finacial aspect of the contract was a figure, of I believe ?25,000 but my lawyers fees were drawn from these monies.

I have often asked myself the question, why did I keep the money, why didn't I give it away.

 All I can say is that I bought a flat.

Whilst reporters were attempting to trap me to talk they regularly indicated that Jeremy was selling his story and suggested I should reply. .

 It was used as a carrot but it didn't attract me I just had knowlege of him negotiating with the press. Mr CHURCH may have reiterated to me but I have no idea about monies that Jeremy was being offerred. He, to my understanding would only get money if he was released.

In order that the contract could be fulfilled I was located in a hotel in Central LONDON which was adjacent to the studio for the photo shoot, and to allow interview. I stayed with my mum in Essex during the trial by Choice.

I believe the policeman Stan JONES informed me of the verdict.

I know I wasn't at home in London or Essex, I believe I was in a neutral place. I don't believe it was the hotel. At some stage in the trial the police arranged accommodation for us.

When I was in the hotel it was for two or three days, possibly a couple of nights, certainly not a week. The News of the World paid for the hotel.

In the years since the trial I have had the opportunity to earn money through interviews, articles and television rights. I have refused all of these offers.

On the release of the news of the appeal 2001 (00/00/01) I have been approached many times to encourage me to sell my story. I have continued to refuse all such offers. Money was never my drive it was a consequence of the advice I was given.

 A couple of months after the News of the World articles, I was approached by a reporter from SHE magazine.

 I was so peeved with the News of the World that I agreed to an interview and photographs. I know I was living in HITHER GREEN at the time and the lady came to my house. It was non - sensational, I was not paid it was intended to balance the image for my self - estreem, it was more representative of me

I have been asked about my financial position at the time of the incident. I can say that as a student I did have some debts but I always worked to pay them off during my studies, indeed that is how I met Jeremy.

The offer of money was not influencial in this regard. At this time I was banking with the Midland Bank in Colchester and I give my authority for the Metropolitan Police to examine my account records including the News of the World transfer.

 I would like to say that the money promise did not impact in any way on the evidence I gave at court. No amount of money would influence what I had to say in a court of law. I would not lie when swearing to tell the truth. I did not want to sell my story: it was part of the process to stop the media from relentlessly harassing me and my family"[/b][/u]


Signed Julie SMERCHANKI (Mugford)
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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2014, 03:31:PM »
Thanks Jackie - it is hard to stomach though!
Typical Julie style, rubbing everything off on others and diminishing her part in ANYTHING!

Nauseating, really!

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2014, 03:55:PM »
And she has still got plenty of fans ???
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2014, 04:47:PM »
  Had Jeremy been found not guilty then Mugford's story would have been worthless so of course it was dependent on a guilty verdict and to claim otherwise is absurd. Mugford claiming that they wanted a story regardless of the outcome makes no sense at all and is obviously a self serving lie.

Her story would have been worthless?  There wouldstill have been great press interest in her claims even if a jury didn't convict him.  There are stories all the time about people who go free who are beleived to be guily and more rarely balanced coverage that wants to present both sides of an issue.

But anyone who supports Jeremy is too blind to ever face anythign raitonally.
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Re: The Jury and the Mugfords
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2014, 05:06:PM »
She didn't moan about the press when they handed her £25,000 though,did she ?