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Offline lookout

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #165 on: September 06, 2014, 12:44:PM »
Agree. June was inheriting half of MS's will. None was going directly to Jeremy.

June would have spent the next 5, 10 or 20 years supporting Sheila and the twins. Maybe a few retirement holidays as well. Oh and a new bike. Jeremy had taken her last one.

So no more claims from posters saying Jeremy did not have to commit the massacre because he was about to inherit a large amount from MS. You know who you are.




Indirectly,Jeremy would have benefitted, normally,had June died naturally. I don't know what you're getting so excited about ? Still keeping score,are you ?

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #166 on: September 06, 2014, 12:52:PM »
It says that Jeremy thought Mable Speakman was cold and distant and never felt close to her. 

Even on birthday's and Christmas, MS would give money to June, to choose a present for Jeremy.



Incidentally, what is meant by "It says.........................." and what is "it"?

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #167 on: September 06, 2014, 01:27:PM »


Incidentally, what is meant by "It says.........................." and what is "it"?

Wilkes's book. Which seems to back up the consensus that Jeremy was not going to inherit from MS. Unless...
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2014, 01:33:PM »
Why was RWB so keen on the grannie changing her will ?

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #169 on: September 06, 2014, 01:36:PM »
Because RWB KNEW that Jeremy would have benefitted from Junes' share if he hadn't have been convicted,so it was VITAL that there was a conviction.

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #170 on: September 06, 2014, 01:38:PM »
Because RWB KNEW that Jeremy would have benefitted from Junes' share if he hadn't have been convicted,so it was VITAL that there was a conviction.

Agree. Jeremy was going to inherit from MS's will, as everyone else was not there.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #171 on: September 07, 2014, 09:26:AM »
Jeremy would not fully benefit from the wills until both Neville and June had deceased.

Neville & June would want to ensure some money is left to a spouse. 

Neville wanting June to be able to continue living a comfortable life. Either still inside WHF, or ensure she had the resources to buy somewhere smaller without it harming the family business. 

June would want the same for Neville and ensure he has the finances to continue managing WHF. 

The second spouse to die, would then leave everything they had left to Jeremy, Sheila and the twins. Unless they chose otherwise, which according to Mary Mugford is quite possible. June considering giving the twins a greater share of her will. 

Jeremy certainly would not take over the running of WHF upon June's death. He testified in court that he would have to continue working on the farm until Neville's death in order to do this. 

If Neville died first, he may have given control of WHF to June. Knowing that June would find a suitable farm manager to manage everything. Neville said Jeremy had no business sense. 

Both Neville and June were 61. So quite possible one or both of them would live for several more years. Jeremy, Sheila and the twins would not have benefited fully until both parents died. Although Sheila and the twins were already benefiting greatly with thousands being spent on them every week. Neville complaining just prior to the massacre at how much Sheila was draining his resources.

In Sheila's case, both parents may have considered it better that she was not given a lump sum. And that she was managed as before. The same with Jeremy, who would have abandoned farm life if he received a lump sum after the first relative died. 

Do people agree that Jeremy may not have seen any light at the end of the tunnel. Even after the natural death of both parents ? 
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Grannie Speakman :
« Reply #172 on: September 07, 2014, 02:53:PM »
He was not a slave Adam.

In your opinion he was spoilt anyway so if he had chosen another profession or wanted to leave the farm his father may have been disappointed but he probably would have supported him - as would have june.

don't forget her letter where she said she loved them both dearly.

Perhaps he would have taken more interest in the caravan business - there was money to be made in both the farm and that business without risking his whole life in jail.