Jeremy's Witness Statement:

[Adam]

THAT was not my point.  The point I was making was if the words were said in the order I presented them, then there is ABSOLUTELY no question that Julie was 100% certain of his guilt. There was no ambiguity. There was no room for her to make any allowances. She could have saved herself a lot of trouble had she, instead of going back to bed, called the police -a 999 call could have been made from the phone in the house. She need never have seen Jeremy again........................but then again, she may have thought about what she would miss out on if she reported it. Perhaps she chose to forget that she believed he'd murdered his family because the expensive dinners, holidays abroad, raunchy sex and the prospect of being his wife was more important to her than the death of his family at his hands.

Jeremy is not the only man who could give an attractive young woman raunchy sex.

If Julie was worried about missing out on pre funeral lobster and champagne dinners, why did she turn down June's offer to buy her a house ?

Julie testified the phone could not make outside calls. So she could not ring Jeremy back.

Julie was in a deep sleep at 3am. Jeremy saying 'everything is going well and there is something wrong at the farm' may not have registered straight away. Anyway Julie said Jeremy liked to say things to shock people.

Julie did say later after his phone call that she realised what may have happened.

[Caroline]

Jeremy is not the only man who could give an attractive young woman raunchy sex.

If Julie was worried about missing out on pre funeral lobster and champagne dinners, why did she turn down June's offer to buy her a house ?

Julie testified the phone could not make outside calls. So she could not ring Jeremy back.

Julie was in a deep sleep at 3am. Jeremy saying 'everything is going well and there is something wrong at the farm' may not have registered straight away. Anyway Julie said Jeremy liked to say things to shock people.

Julie did say later after his phone call that she realised what may have happened.

Yeah 

[JackiePreece]

Maggie is right

I believe that Jeremy thought Sheila was having an episode and wanted to tell Julie.
He was on his own and needed to tell someone
Once again I will state he had NO idea how serious things had got
Hence on being surprised when told all his family were dead
He had spoken to his dad a few hours earlier and obviously thought the family were still ok when him and Bewes saw movement in the house

Once again Adam

Jeremy told Julie there was something wrong at the farm

He would NOT have said those words of he had really said tonight's the night

By saying THOSE words he clearly had NO idea what was going down at WHF

[JackiePreece]

Once again because you obviously don't grasp what you

If someone says something's wrong at the farm means

Something's wrong at the farm but I am not sure what !!!

[Jane]

Jeremy is not the only man who could give an attractive young woman raunchy sex.
ABSOLUTELY!!! BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD HIS POTENTIAL WEALTH

If Julie was worried about missing out on pre funeral lobster and champagne dinners, why did she turn down June's offer to buy her a house ?
ANGLING FOR CAVIAR OVER COCKLES?

Julie testified the phone could not make outside calls. So she could not ring Jeremy back.
CAN'T THINK WHY SHE'D WANT TO

Julie was in a deep sleep at 3am. Jeremy saying 'everything is going well and there is something wrong at the farm' may not have registered straight away. Anyway Julie said Jeremy liked to say things to shock people.
IF JEREMY HAD BEEN DROPPING HINTS ABOUT MURDER FOR THE PAST YEAR AND PHONED HER AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT, I THINK THE PENNY WOULD HAVE DROPPED IMMEDIATELY.

Julie did say later after his phone call that she realised what may have happened.
SO DOING NOTHING WAS HER CHOICE?

[Adam]

Maggie is right

I believe that Jeremy thought Sheila was having an episode and wanted to tell Julie.
He was on his own and needed to tell someone
Once again I will state he had NO idea how serious things had got
Hence on being surprised when told all his family were dead
He had spoken to his dad a few hours earlier and obviously thought the family were still ok when him and Bewes saw movement in the house

Once again Adam

Jeremy told Julie there was something wrong at the farm

He would NOT have said those words of he had really said tonight's the night

By saying THOSE words he clearly had NO idea what was going down at WHF

Why phone Julie ? Not for advice. He says he had already phoned the police (16 minutes after Neville's call) & was meeting them at WHF.

Jeremy at first claimed he phoned Julie before the police.  Probably to boast that 'everything is going well'. Independent witnesses support this and even show his call to Julie was before Neville's alleged phone call. Already discussed.

Eventually under police questioning he said he phoned Julie after the police. His reason - 'no comment'. His later WS said it was just to tell her 'something is wrong at the farm'.

[Adam]

Do you think Julie should have phoned  the police after Jeremy woke up her entire house to say 'everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm'.

Perhaps she thought Jeremy was dealing with it. It was his family and he was only 5 minutes away from WHF.

[Caroline]

Do you think Julie should have phoned  the police after Jeremy woke up her entire house to say 'everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm'.

Perhaps she thought Jeremy was dealing with it. It was his family and he was only 5 minutes away from WHF.

No, but she could have tried saying something during the year he was planning to kill them.

[Jane]

Do you think Julie should have phoned  the police after Jeremy woke up her entire house to say 'everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm'.

Perhaps she thought Jeremy was dealing with it. It was his family and he was only 5 minutes away from WHF.

Oh dear, I think my reply must have gone walk about. A shame, it was a good one.

[Jane]

Do you think Julie should have phoned  the police after Jeremy woke up her entire house to say 'everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm'.

Perhaps she thought Jeremy was dealing with it. It was his family and he was only 5 minutes away from WHF.

What I think 30 years on is quite irrelevant. However, what Julie may have thought then can possibly give us a clue about the things which motivated her.

She was an intelligent girl. She would have known how to think and what question to ask. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, it may be that up to the point of THAT call, it had been an intellectual jigsaw which she can't NOT have thought about from time to time, but she didn't ask the questions presumably because she'd rather NOT know the answer. Better to think he liked to say shocking things. I CAN understand why she wouldn't want to believe he was serious. Who would?

His call, at the time of night it came, HAD to have changed everything. The last piece of the jigsaw must have fallen into pace and it's at this point that any sympathy I'd previously felt for her is diminished because I think it was here that she made a conscious decision about what course of action would deliver the most for her, putting her own wants above the lives of his family. I resolutely believe that if he'd married her she would have said nothing.

[Adam]

We will never know.

Jeremy's WS says Neville's 'mysterious' phone call was at 3.10am. He phoned the police at 3.26am.

What do you think he was doing for 16 minutes ?

[Jan]

We will never know.

Jeremy's WS says Neville's 'mysterious' phone call was at 3.10am. He phoned the police at 3.26am.

What do you think he was doing for 16 minutes ?

perhaps we will Adam .

The truth always comes out in the end.

It may be that all we need is for someone to put pressure on to get all those 200 boxes the EP refuse to release. And if there is nothing in there then at least it will keep Jeremy busy - if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to lose do they?

[Jane]

We will never know.

Jeremy's WS says Neville's 'mysterious' phone call was at 3.10am. He phoned the police at 3.26am.

What do you think he was doing for 16 minutes ?

Going back only 4 and a half years since I received one of "those" calls, I can only give approximations, time wise. The call came 5/10 minutes past 1am. I got up, threw clothes on, called my partner's brother, called his daughter in law -I had to look in my address book for both numbers-  found my car keys, grabbed my bag and pulled on a coat. It was 1.25 ish when I left.

[lookout]

Do you think Julie should have phoned  the police after Jeremy woke up her entire house to say 'everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm'.

Perhaps she thought Jeremy was dealing with it. It was his family and he was only 5 minutes away from WHF.

" Everything is going well ",could quite possibly have referred to the harvesting if Julie had asked how things were. It was that time of the year when Jeremy realised that he'd have to pull out all the stops if he was going to get on with his father and the farm in general. I think Neville had had words prior to Jeremy working on the farm after his " jaunts " abroad. Both June and Neville had said that Jeremy was lazy.
It HAS to do with how it's interpreted and what you read into it !

[Adam]

Jeremy rang Julie up at 3.00am to tell her the harvesting is going well ?

Thank you. I just laughed.