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Offline grahameb

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #135 on: August 02, 2014, 12:12:PM »
What clue? She was responding to a post indicating that Jeremy didn't £2,  by saying he actually had that amount in his account.

That was all.  :-\
Wake up Hartley I just explained what I meant. Have a cup of coffee, that'll sharpen you up a bit. ;)

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #136 on: August 02, 2014, 12:16:PM »
The evidence that Muggy lied are the lies she told about almost everything she claimed Jeremy told her. The problem is that although it was she who lied the opposition are intent of thinking that it was Jeremy who lied and not her.
That to me is very strange as those who lie are usually accountable for their own lies. Unfortunately instead of Muggy, Jeremy gets blamed for her lies. Very odd logic if you ask me, especially as there is absolutely nothing to back up a word she said as they were allegedly said in private.
What amazes me of course is how can anyone be so dumb so as to be taken in by this woman?

You clearly don't understand then.

Regardless of whether you believe Julie or not, she has given an account of what Jeremy had told her.
The fact that the information Jeremy told her was a fabrication, doesn't mean that he didn't say it to Julie.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Julie lied. Likewise there is no actual evidence that she told the truth.

It boils down to what you believe, I suspect the actual truth is somewhere in between.

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #137 on: August 02, 2014, 12:17:PM »
You clearly don't understand then.

Regardless of whether you believe Julie or not, she has given an account of what Jeremy had told her.
The fact that the information Jeremy told her was a fabrication, doesn't mean that he didn't say it to Julie.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Julie lied. Likewise there is no actual evidence that she told the truth.

It boils down to what you believe, I suspect the actual truth is somewhere in between.
Perhaps or perhaps not. ;D

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #138 on: August 02, 2014, 12:20:PM »
Wake up Hartley I just explained what I meant. Have a cup of coffee, that'll sharpen you up a bit. ;)

Yes and what you meant didn't relate to what was posted.

I have to admit though, I am struggling to wake up ...... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz  :P

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #139 on: August 02, 2014, 12:28:PM »
Yes and what you meant didn't relate to what was posted.

I have to admit though, I am struggling to wake up ...... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz  :P
Perhaps this'll help?  ;D ;D

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #140 on: August 02, 2014, 12:28:PM »
Caroline the clue is " in his account". ;)

Clue to what? She wouldn't know he had 2 grand in his account but if he told her that MM was a hitman and said he paid him 2 grand; when the police check out her story and find out it's bollocks - he could prove he still had 2 grand and that none of it was paid out from his account. Had Jeremy not already been a suspect, the woman scorned may have held ground with police. Strange how she told police the exact amount that Jeremy had in his account - was he drip feeding?
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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2014, 12:29:PM »
Thought Julie said in her WS she knew Jeremy did not have 2k available.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2014, 12:31:PM »
Thought Julie said in her WS she knew Jeremy did not have 2k available.

Well, he did!
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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2014, 12:32:PM »
Thought Julie said in her WS she knew Jeremy did not have 2k available.
Yes, so I don't know where Caroline got all that from about her knowing he had 2k in the bank?

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2014, 12:35:PM »
Well, he did!

Is that what Jeremy told you ?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2014, 12:39:PM »
Well, he did!
The JM didn't know what he had in the bank then after all?

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #146 on: August 02, 2014, 12:42:PM »
Yes, so I don't know where Caroline got all that from about her knowing he had 2k in the bank?


if you were paying a hit man I dont think you would be stupid enough to go and draw the money out of your own account straight after the event, don't forget he had been planning for a year so he would have the cash stashed away somewhere so I think this whole argument is nonsense.

The only way I can see Jeremy having said any of the hit man stuff ( although of course he claims it is fabrication) is if Julie had started probing him accusingly and he ( on the verge of dumping her) thought was a silly young woman ( as he was innocent ) and started making sarcastic comments which he never thought she would take seriously.

But I still don't believe innocent or guilty that he said any of it. It just does not make any sense at all.

Especially if the relationship was on the wane you would not want to give anything away to implicate yourself . If he did all that planning , with the phone detail and everything else that was involved , you are not going to risk everything at the last minute.



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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #147 on: August 02, 2014, 12:45:PM »
Julie said Jeremy told her about MM when they first met after the massacre.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2014, 12:51:PM »
Julie said Jeremy told her about MM when they first met after the massacre.

that makes it even more unlikely then.

Why would he be that stupid - it does not make the crime any less horrific?

OR, LIGHTBULB MOMENT , does that in her mind excuse her still supporting him and sleeping with a murderer  for a month because he had not done it by his own hands ?

If she was a fantasist and attention seeker then in her own mind that meant she was not really an accessory because he was not the person who had carried out the murders. Hmmm now that does sound more likely. She was going to help the police get him put away  but protect her involvement at the same time.

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Re: Why would he?
« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2014, 01:01:PM »
Yes, so I don't know where Caroline got all that from about her knowing he had 2k in the bank?

Actually, it's in Jeremy's WS But will have to check, thought this was common knowledge?
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