Jeremy's Debts

[Caroline]

Caroline you have not been shunned by forum members because you have changed your stance posters still respect and love you for you not your stance on Jeremy Bamber and my friends on here are still my friends even though I have a different take on things than them now.

Thank you Susan! I know some people are just the same but others are decidedly frosty and like to get in the odd dig now and again. It doesn't bother me and says more about them than it does me. I shall continue to give my opinion if and when I so desire, and if they don't like it then that's kinda tough! 

[grahameb]

Your post wasn't removed, you weren't supposed to have access to the moderator thread/board - it is a thread/board for moderators only - your post is still there but your access to the thread was removed. Several members had access to it for a short while by mistake. And whether you read my posts to Scipio or not, I have challenged him on MANY occasions as has April.

No pm to me in answer to my post. Nothing. My posts was very polite yet no one took any notice. It's not my fault that I had access. You have not challenged him on his rudeness towards other members. If you had then I wouldn't have had to rebuke him myself. If he takes no notice then I should think he needs a warning. If I get banned because I stand up to him then I don't really care a rats ass. I will accept the ban without whinging like some others. But I will not back down on this disgustingly rude fellow. But of course you are the admin. Who am I to tell you your job?

[grahameb]

I have because my position has changed and I'm inclined to think he's guilty. I have no concern for what other people think of my posts, I don't write them to impress anyone.

Well as long as you think its ok? I thought the whole point of making posts is to make an impression on people? But still, you're the boss.

[susan]

Caroline  if that is the case then it is very sad as we are all human beings and should be allowed our opinion even when it differs from that of our friends.  Since I changed my stance nothing has changed I was virtually ignored when I thought he was innocent same now I think he could be guilty perhaps I should stop talking crap

[Caroline]

Well as long as you think its ok? I thought the whole point of making posts is to make an impression on people? But still, you're the boss.

I do think it's OK or I wouldn't have said it, But considering that certain members become personal when I do post, I must be making an impression. My change in stance has certainly rattled a few cages. 

[Caroline]

Caroline  if that is the case then it is very sad as we are all human beings and should be allowed our opinion even when it differs from that of our friends.  Since I changed my stance nothing has changed I was virtually ignored when I thought he was innocent same now I think he could be guilty perhaps I should stop talking crap

You and I need to stick together then Susan 

[Jane]

I guess you must have missed my posts to him. Incidentally, how much notice do you believe he takes of your rebukes? Personally, I've never seen anything from him by way of either apology OR self moderation in response to admonishments.

Just for you Grahame, in  case you missed it first time round. I take exception  to being told that I've done nothing to rebuke his rudeness. Between us, Caroline and I have used most of the appropriate adjectives in the book to censure him. It has NO effect. In fact, he relishes the attention like a child and does it all the more.

[Alias]

Going back to the original question of why Jeremy didn't call 999 - I can quite categorically say, that had my dad called me to tell me my brother had a gun (he was also schizophrenic), I'd have called 999. He also had never been violent but I would have been equally concerned that he may have hurt himself as well as wondering about the safety of my parents. However, there was no urgency - why?

Because something similar had happened before and had calmed down on its own?
Freddie Emami had called Nevill, because he could not control Sheila during an "episode". Dotors couldn´t control her during this episode, and Freddie was scared to death.
However, Nevill didn´t see this as an emergency, so he took his time coming to London. Why didn´t he?

[susan]

Caroline it is strange to say the least.  I always thought Jeremy innocent but of late changed my stance as all forum members know but some of my best friends on here are in the guilty camp and I get on so well with them as people even when I thought he was innocent as their views on JB did not affect how I viewed them and that is how it should be.

[susan]

april I have seen on many occasions you and Caroline pull scipio up for his rudeness to no avail.  I don't think he is a bad guy just does not have the flow of the English language that steve uk has  I think Grahame handles him so well and I enjoy reading their posts.

[Jane]

april I have seen on many occasions you and Caroline pull scipio up for his rudeness to no avail.  I don't think he is a bad guy just does not have the flow of the English language that steve uk has  I think Grahame handles him so well and I enjoy reading their posts.

Susan, THANK-YOU Perhaps Grahame hasn't been on forum at those times but just between us, I get the impression that Grahame enjoys his exchanges with Scipio and he MAY feel a little bit guilty about that. I bet he'd miss him if he wasn't here

[Alias]

scipio, the Energizer Bunny of Insults. 
I don´t think it is a secret that I find his choice of wording offensive. He likes to wind people up, simple as that, and he HAS to have the last word.
He does bring life to this board though, however we could live without the insults! I see it as him having a problem with himself.

[susan]

april it is funny you should say that but last time Grahame left the forum I emailed him and asked him to come back and I said "who is going to answer Scipio's posts" as you do it so well.  I never thought it was getting to Grahame the way is has.

[Caroline]

Because something similar had happened before and had calmed down on its own?
Freddie Emami had called Nevill, because he could not control Sheila during an "episode". Dotors couldn´t control her during this episode, and Freddie was scared to death.
However, Nevill didn´t see this as an emergency, so he took his time coming to London. Why didn´t he?

I could understand your point, if he had chosen NOT to call the police and just gone over to WHF to help BUT he did call the police so if he thought the police needed to become involved, why not 999?

[Alias]

I could understand your point, if he had chosen NOT to call the police and just gone over to WHF to help BUT he did call the police so if he thought the police needed to become involved, why not 999?

As I said (and I am perhaps playing Devil´s advocate a little bit), he was fearful that Nevill would be angry at him for calling the police. The local coppers would have been a compromise - very possibly people Nevill knew.
I think Jeremy´s call to Julie indicates indecision.