Jeremy's Debts

[No-Bits]

Yes, he knows about the forum, he doesn't like it and I don't know if he knows about individual members, if he does, it's not from me.

Are many people in contact with him? Do you know?

I've always thought it a bit ........... I don't know, uncomfortable I suppose. I wouldn't want a multiple murderer to have my address or phone number. 

[guest154]

Are many people in contact with him? Do you know?

I've always thought it a bit ........... I don't know, uncomfortable I suppose. I wouldn't want a multiple murderer to have my address or phone number. 

Especially with the way some of his campaign team have treated people who have given Bamber their address in the past. I was once going to write but if you don't include your address on the letter then apparently the prison staff won't pass the letter on, so I thought better of it.

[grahameb]

Neutral?  lol

There's no shame in admitting that you are a 'GULLIBLE' you know.  :D

I'm not offended by that Hartley. But I do admit that I certainly am not intelligent and also a bit slow in my mind as I get older. But if you take the trouble to read all of my posts you will have to agree that I take a middle road. Not because I think Bamber to be innocent. Nor because I think him innocent. But because some things just do not add up and that I cannot agree that EVERYTHING Bamber said is a lie as some do. I also cannot accept that Mugford has told the whole truth. I rather think that she was/is a liar as well and quite simply cannot understand why seemingly intelligent people believe everything she said? So yes I am middle ground on the case. At least I don't try and belittle others (except of course scipio) and try and make them look fools just because they disagree with me. And you know also that if I am proved wrong then I own up to it and say I'm wrongm instead of saying things like "I was misinformed".

[No-Bits]

I'm not offended by that Hartley. But I do admit that I certainly am not intelligent and also a bit slow in my mind as I get older. But if you take the trouble to read all of my posts you will have to agree that I take a middle road. Not because I think Bamber to be innocent. Nor because I think him innocent. But because some things just do not add up and that I cannot agree that EVERYTHING Bamber said is a lie as some do. I also cannot accept that Mugford has told the whole truth. I rather think that she was/is a liar as well and quite simply cannot understand why seemingly intelligent people believe everything she said? So yes I am middle ground on the case. At least I don't try and belittle others (except of course scipio) and try and make them look fools just because they disagree with me. And you know also that if I am proved wrong then I own up to it and say I'm wrongm instead of saying things like "I was misinformed".

Seriously, I was just kidding, I didn't mean to weigh in. Just being jovial. 

[grahameb]

Well firstly......Neutral? I am shocked you even had the nerve to type that word to be honest.

I think it is clear I was talking about Caroline - I said "Caroline." I said "SHE"... I didn't mention the honesty or lack of honesty of anybody else.

You say you're mocked for being neutral and questioning things - but you do the same to Caroline.

Well that means that you believe me to be a liar. It also is an indication that you are biased. Because you obviously have not read all my posts.
Re Caroline. No I don't.

[Caroline]

Are many people in contact with him? Do you know?

I've always thought it a bit ........... I don't know, uncomfortable I suppose. I wouldn't want a multiple murderer to have my address or phone number. 

I have no idea Harters, I never discussed anyone else but I'm sure lots of people write to him. My own experience was actually by accident. I watched Crimes That Shook Britain and was pretty shocked by some of the content. At that point I had always thought he was guilty - although I didn't know much about him. I actually just sent a 'best wishes' type email through the contact site on his website (email a prisoner). I didn't read the small print (didn't know he would have access to my details) so was shocked when I got a reply to my address. Being as he had my address anyway, I thought I would ask him a few questions. My partner wasn't very happy about it - but his interest is Sunderland football club which is probably worse!! 

[grahameb]

I have no idea Harters, I never discussed anyone else but I'm sure lots of people write to him. My own experience was actually by accident. I watched Crimes That Shook Britain and was pretty shocked by some of the content. At that point I had always thought he was guilty - although I didn't know much about him. I actually just sent a 'best wishes' type email through the contact site on his website (email a prisoner). I didn't read the small print (didn't know he would have access to my details) so was shocked when I got a reply to my address. Being as he had my address anyway, I thought I would ask him a few questions. My partner wasn't very happy about it - but his interest is Sunderland football club which is probably worse!! 

I wrote to him a couple of times. I'm not afraid of giving him my name and address. What's the matter with people? What do you think he's going to do anyway.
I am more concerned that the Bamber supporter abusers have my address and so is Jackie Preece as she lives alone and got take away meals delivered to her door ordered by the abusers. I have had mysterious phone calls to my house and abuse down the phone.
So that is another reason that causes me to steer a middle line. Which obviously the biased guilters interpret as being a Bamber supporter. I am quite frankly put off by the whole of the guilty party because of their tendency to abuse and mock the supporters by insinuating that they are gullible or fools etc. No way will I want to be associated with such people. They disgust me.

[No-Bits]

I have no idea Harters, I never discussed anyone else but I'm sure lots of people write to him. My own experience was actually by accident. I watched Crimes That Shook Britain and was pretty shocked by some of the content. At that point I had always thought he was guilty - although I didn't know much about him. I actually just sent a 'best wishes' type email through the contact site on his website (email a prisoner). I didn't read the small print (didn't know he would have access to my details) so was shocked when I got a reply to my address. Being as he had my address anyway, I thought I would ask him a few questions. My partner wasn't very happy about it - but his interest is Sunderland football club which is probably worse!! 

Oh okay, so you never had phone calls or visited or gave out your home address?

A have a certain tie the the North East, so I can relate to Sunderland to a certain degree lol.

[Alias]

I have never written to Jeremy, and I doubt I ever will. I am in doubt whether he committed the murders and wouldn´t know WHAT to say to him because of that! 

I think that Jeremy could have come to the conclusion that Nevill might be able to talk the local coppers out of contacting higher authorities regarding Sheila´s "episode" (read Child Protective Services). If he called 999 some strangers would come to the farm.
Maybe.

BTW, the sentence which Jeremy allegedly said to Julie "Everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm",  simply does not make sense. It does make sense if you add a "but".
"Everything is going well (with me), but something is wrong at the farm. (What should I do?)"

[guest154]

Re Caroline. No I don't.

You clearly do.

What's it like looking at everything in a biased way now Caroline. If you don't look at both sides it is amazing how little time it takes to become biased.

[grahameb]

I have never written to Jeremy, and I doubt I ever will. I am in doubt whether he committed the murders and wouldn´t know WHAT to say to him because of that! 

I think that Jeremy could have come to the conclusion that Nevill might be able to talk the local coppers out of contacting higher authorities regarding Sheila´s "episode" (read Child Protective Services). If he called 999 some strangers would come to the farm.
Maybe.

BTW, the sentence which Jeremy allegedly said to Julie "Everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm",  simply does not make sense. It does make sense if you add a "but".
"Everything is going well (with me), but something is wrong at the farm. (What should I do?)"

If he said that Alias why would he say in the same sentence, "Something id wrong at the farm". Why do people always leave out that bit. The conversation probably went this way: JM, "Are you ok?" Jeremy: "Yes everything is well with me. Something is wrong at the farm". JM: "Go to bed".

[Caroline]

I wrote to him a couple of times. I'm not afraid of giving him my name and address. What's the matter with people? What do you think he's going to do anyway.
I am more concerned that the Bamber supporter abusers have my address and so is Jackie Preece as she lives alone and got take away meals delivered to her door ordered by the abusers. I have had mysterious phone calls to my house and abuse down the phone.
So that is another reason that causes me to steer a middle line. Which obviously the biased guilters interpret as being a Bamber supporter. I am quite frankly put off by the whole of the guilty party because of their tendency to abuse and mock the supporters by insinuating that they are gullible or fools etc. No way will I want to be associated with such people. They disgust me.

I have never abused or mocked anyone. I don't have anyone's address and I have had my fair share of abuse from both sides. Why people can't just simply express an opinion without things getting personal is beyond me but since I registered the fact that I'm changing my stance, there is certainly a frosty air from some posters.

[No-Bits]

I wrote to him a couple of times. I'm not afraid of giving him my name and address. What's the matter with people? What do you think he's going to do anyway.
I am more concerned that the Bamber supporter abusers have my address and so is Jackie Preece as she lives alone and got take away meals delivered to her door ordered by the abusers. I have had mysterious phone calls to my house and abuse down the phone.
So that is another reason that causes me to steer a middle line. Which obviously the biased guilters interpret as being a Bamber supporter. I am quite frankly put off by the whole of the guilty party because of their tendency to abuse and mock the supporters by insinuating that they are gullible or fools etc. No way will I want to be associated with such people. They disgust me.

I'm not sure where this 'neutral' thing has come from, but regardless of your actual views, you don't come across on the forum as being neutral, quite the opposite. To say you are neutral actually makes you look a bit silly (no disrespect intended).

I don't know if others see it that way. 

[Caroline]

Oh okay, so you never had phone calls or visited or gave out your home address?

A have a certain tie the the North East, so I can relate to Sunderland to a certain degree lol.

God NO!! My partner would have a fit if Jeremy Bamber called (he thinks he's guilty - end of). He does have the address, the prisoner contact site give out your address but I didn't read the small print and didn't realise they would.

I love Sunderland the place, just not the team! (Although I just hate football - altogether!!  )

Edited because I spelled NO 'know' - had a glass of wine, it's quite strong!! 

[grahameb]

I have never abused or mocked anyone. I don't have anyone's address and I have had my fair share of abuse from both sides. Why people can't just simply express an opinion without things getting personal is beyond me but since I registered the fact that I'm changing my stance, there is certainly a frosty air from some posters.

No you don't but now you are associating with such. Which I might add you don't seem to rebuke. I find that I am having to do it. Anyway now that you are with the guilty party you don't have to worry about abuse from them any more. I simply hate these tossers who are completely full of themselves. My nature has always been to defend the weak against the bullies. The guilters have their fair share of bullies.