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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2014, 07:50:PM »
Quote from: Harters on July 27, 2014, 07:45:PM
I thought it was information from Jeremy himself.  :-\

It was a couple of grand, and then he'd saved up a few hundred for something else for the house.
I don't think it is relevant though.

It wasn't as if he was in major debt, but then I don't think anybody has suggested that he was, have they?

Any debt he may or may not have had was not the motivation for him to murder his family.
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2014, 07:53:PM »
Quote from: April on July 27, 2014, 07:50:PM



From which source did you obtain in formation that Jeremy was a ruthless operator obsessed by money?

As he murdered 5 people including 2 children for financial gain, it's not difficult to understand where such a notion would stem from.  :-\
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2014, 07:53:PM »
Of course it is a source.

A very good article as well.
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2014, 07:56:PM »
forum posts are not sources.
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2014, 07:58:PM »
It is not a forum post. It was an independent article. A forum member put it on a forum.
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2014, 08:00:PM »
theres no link the artical posted there.

why cant you link to the artical derectly.

a quate without a link means nothing.
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2014, 08:04:PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 27, 2014, 07:41:PM
It is no secret Jeremy wanted to be a rich playboy. He was a ruthless operator. Obsessed with money. Source already provided.

Working 14/17 hour days as a farm labourer meant he did not have the time, money or energy to be a playboy.

His gran's will was discussed a couple of days ago. No one has ever provided proof that he was going to inherit from her. It was not brought up at trial by the defence to refute the money motive claim. There is no mention of this on his OS.
Many young people want to be playboys or girls and live the celebrity lifestyle but is there proof he actually did want that. Cannot see how working at Sloppy Joe's or Little Chef took him closer to such an ambition. In Australia which it is claimed he mainly funded, although you like to promote the fact he didn't he worked on a sugar plantation.
We don't need reasons, they prove nothing, only reason to my mind would be that he was extremely wicked. Imo
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2014, 08:06:PM »
and new zealand is hardly a place for playboys.
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2014, 08:13:PM »
Quote from: nugnug on July 27, 2014, 08:06:PM
and new zealand is hardly a place for playboys.

hehe, no! Neither is Australia - Jeremy had a lot to learn about the playboy lifestyle! Work in low end bars and restaurants would be a no-no to an up-and-coming playboy! Work that he did out of his own free will. Farm work doesn´t REALLY do anything to cultivate a playboy image!  :P
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2014, 08:14:PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 27, 2014, 07:46:PM
None of the reasons alone would be enough. But together they were a strong supporting reason sitting alongside over a million pounds in today's money.
Not unless he was wicked enough, we are speaking about a human being Adam and most human beings would not be capable of carrying out such a violent cruel murder, even if the thought of it was attractive. To be able to cope with such horror and kill the people who had loved you most, parents who cared for you as a baby takes a particular kind of wickedness. To be able to turn up and talk to the police without showing signs of emotion, rushing adrenaline etc. requires a person who is devoid of empathy or emotion as far as I can see.
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2014, 08:15:PM »
Quote from: Alias on July 27, 2014, 08:13:PM
hehe, no! Neither is Australia - Jeremy had a lot to learn about the playboy lifestyle! Work in low end bars and restaurants would be a no-no to an up-and-coming playboy! Work that he did out of his own free will. Farm work doesn´t REALLY do anything to cultivate a playboy image!  :P

Correct. He could only live the playboy life if he had the finances.

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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2014, 08:16:PM »
Quote from: nugnug on July 27, 2014, 08:06:PM
and new zealand is hardly a place for playboys.

Oh okay?   ???
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2014, 08:18:PM »
Quote from: Harters on July 27, 2014, 08:16:PM
Oh okay?   ???

Yea, don´t go there, Harters!
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Re: Jeremy's Debts
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2014, 08:21:PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 27, 2014, 08:15:PM
Correct. He could only live the playboy life if he had the finances.

There is no proof that Jeremy wanted to live a playboy lifestyle.

Colin Caffel seems to think that Jeremy´s motive was not only greed, but perhaps more strongly HATE and RESENTMENT at the controlling ways towards Sheila and Jeremy by the Bambers.
Colin states in his book that if Jeremy hadn´t killed June, he himself might have. He really does say that!  :o
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