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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2014, 07:44:PM »
to me that proves her statement isnt credible.

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« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2014, 07:48:PM »
to me that proves her statement isnt credible.

What proves her statment is not credible?  That police took it? 
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #137 on: July 28, 2014, 07:50:PM »
when she said he strangled rats with his bare hands that pretty much discredits completly in my opinion.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #138 on: July 28, 2014, 07:51:PM »
You mean that Mugford said he faked it?

Jeremy had no reason at all to tell Julie he puked unless he did it in the context she said of saying he was a good actor liek her and had forced himself to puke so police would believe he wa supset.

Police had no reaosn to tell Julie tha the puked unless they told her to lie and say he told her that he faked it.

There would be no way for Julie to find out he puked and make it up on her own.

The notion police make the lie up for her is reidiclous the only credible account is that Jeremy told her he was acting.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #139 on: July 28, 2014, 07:55:PM »
when she said he strangled rats with his bare hands that pretty much discredits completly in my opinion.

1) how come you don't hold Jeremy to that standard and say since he lied that means everything he says is a lie?

2) She still would be in no posiiton to make up such a lie herself the on;y possiiblities are that police mad eup the lie or Jeremy admitted he forced himself to puke.
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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #140 on: July 28, 2014, 08:01:PM »
Jeremy had no reason at all to tell Julie he puked unless he did it in the context she said of saying he was a good actor liek her and had forced himself to puke so police would believe he wa supset.

Police had no reaosn to tell Julie tha the puked unless they told her to lie and say he told her that he faked it.

There would be no way for Julie to find out he puked and make it up on her own.

The notion police make the lie up for her is reidiclous the only credible account is that Jeremy told her he was acting.
Still Mugford's words. I have no reason to believe this woman. Taff Jones soon saw through her. June certainly did and I suspect the relatives did as well? They certainly didn't like her. Hmm, I wonder why? ::)

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #141 on: July 28, 2014, 08:04:PM »
1) how come you don't hold Jeremy to that standard and say since he lied that means everything he says is a lie?

2) She still would be in no posiiton to make up such a lie herself the on;y possiiblities are that police mad eup the lie or Jeremy admitted he forced himself to puke.
Of course she would. There were other ways she could have found out these things, especially after she was interviewed 32 times odd. Excuse me scipio, but you appear to be very naive about this woman and about what goes on in the interview rooms? Or could it be your biased mind that is thinking for you? ::)

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #142 on: July 28, 2014, 08:55:PM »
well the 32 interviews is dodgy for a start ive never heard of a witness being interviewd that many times.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #143 on: July 28, 2014, 08:58:PM »
 The taped ones would be interesting !

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #144 on: July 28, 2014, 09:04:PM »
i mean what possble reason would they have for interviewing her 32 times unless of course they were helping her get her story straght.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #145 on: July 28, 2014, 09:05:PM »
1) how come you don't hold Jeremy to that standard and say since he lied that means everything he says is a lie?

2) She still would be in no posiiton to make up such a lie herself the on;y possiiblities are that police mad eup the lie or Jeremy admitted he forced himself to puke.
How come you don't hold Mugford to the same standard as you do Jeremy? It is only her word against his effectively.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #146 on: July 28, 2014, 09:07:PM »
i mean what possble reason would they have for interviewing her 32 times unless of course they were helping her get her story straght.

They must have been rehearsing for the trial some of the time.
BTW, Julie was paid for every single second of those 32 interviews - or whatever they were.

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« Reply #147 on: July 28, 2014, 09:11:PM »
we need no actully we need you say this now.

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #148 on: July 28, 2014, 09:16:PM »
They must have been rehearsing for the trial some of the time.
BTW, Julie was paid for every single second of those 32 interviews - or whatever they were.
To my mind the ONLY reason they interviewed her 32 times was to coach her. There could be no other reason. They were determined to get a conviction and she was their star witness. But one thing stands out in the majority of her testimony is that it cannot be backed up by anyone else. And still there are those who are gullible enough to believe her. ::)

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Re: the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.
« Reply #149 on: July 28, 2014, 09:21:PM »
her gender went a long way a man less likely to be credible.