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« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2014, 09:41:PM »
If the clothes had nothing to do with anything then why would Ann mention them in her statement. For by mentioning them she immediately throws suspicion on it?

She mentioned a whole lot of things that are not that important including that police asked if she ever had an affair with Jeremy.  Police let her write anything she wanted thus her statements are the longest and have information not significant. 
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« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2014, 09:42:PM »
She mentioned a whole lot of things that are not that important including that police asked if she ever had an affair with Jeremy.  Police let her write anything she wanted thus her statements are the longest and have information not significant.
That's a point. Why do you think they asked her if she'd ever had an affair with Jeremy?

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« Reply #137 on: July 28, 2014, 09:43:PM »
I tend to believe Ann Eaton too - and Vic for that matter.
However, I have a hard time seeing how blood could look like "a match-head sized blob of jam" - or words to that effect. Police planted the silencer?  :-\
I find that a strange description of supposedly 3 day old blood. Caroline tested it out and it proved what was suspected that blood as described by Ann Eaton would not survive in that mode. It would shrivel up and dry out. That is why I wonder if AE actually saw it.

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« Reply #138 on: July 28, 2014, 09:44:PM »
No I don't think the police would plant the silencer?





They needed glasses though Grahame. How many of them looked in the cupboard ? If it had horns,it would have poked them  ::)

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« Reply #139 on: July 28, 2014, 09:47:PM »




They needed glasses though Grahame. How many of them looked in the cupboard ? If it had horns,it would have poked them  ::)
It may have been in a box and also remember at that stage they weren't looking for a silencer. Neither did they see the sights, or the boxes of ammunition.

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« Reply #140 on: July 28, 2014, 09:54:PM »
I find that a strange description of supposedly 3 day old blood. Caroline tested it out and it proved what was suspected that blood as described by Ann Eaton would not survive in that mode. It would shrivel up and dry out. That is why I wonder if AE actually saw it.

SO does dry jam
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #141 on: July 28, 2014, 09:56:PM »
I find that a strange description of supposedly 3 day old blood. Caroline tested it out and it proved what was suspected that blood as described by Ann Eaton would not survive in that mode. It would shrivel up and dry out. That is why I wonder if AE actually saw it.

Yes, I forgot to specify that - it had been there for three days and wouldn´t be jam-like.

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« Reply #142 on: July 28, 2014, 09:57:PM »
SO does dry jam
What's that got to do withh it?
AE described it as like jelly or a blob of jam, she didn't say anything about a dried out, flaked off turned brown, blob of jam.

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« Reply #143 on: July 28, 2014, 11:42:PM »
What's that got to do withh it?
AE described it as like jelly or a blob of jam, she didn't say anything about a dried out, flaked off turned brown, blob of jam.

She didn't say anything about it being wet either.  Team Jeremy is always out trying to find a way to try to discredit the evidence through some stupid way instead of taking it head on as needs to be done to refute it.

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« Reply #144 on: July 28, 2014, 11:52:PM »
She didn't say anything about it being wet either.  Team Jeremy is always out trying to find a way to try to discredit the evidence through some stupid way instead of taking it head on as needs to be done to refute it.
Not so much of the "stupid" no need to continually insult people especially when they are obviously more intelligent than you.

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« Reply #145 on: July 29, 2014, 12:02:AM »
Not so much of the "stupid" no need to continually insult people especially when they are obviously more intelligent than you.

Your ability to recognize intellect is nonexistent which is why you always fall for absurd lies from Mike along with lookout.

The simple truth is that all the claims made by Team Jeremy are absurd because there is no way to actually refute any of the evidence head on.  That just makes people on Team Jeremy dishonest or fools.

When you assert a belief that has no rational basis in fact you are either a fool or intentionally supporting a position that you know is a crock.


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« Reply #146 on: July 29, 2014, 01:37:AM »
Your ability to recognize intellect is nonexistent which is why you always fall for absurd lies from Mike along with lookout.

The simple truth is that all the claims made by Team Jeremy are absurd because there is no way to actually refute any of the evidence head on.  That just makes people on Team Jeremy dishonest or fools.

When you assert a belief that has no rational basis in fact you are either a fool or intentionally supporting a position that you know is a crock.
For your information I don't adhere to everything Mike says. Neither have I ever given that impression. Your comments are both untrue and calculated to belittle my intelligence. My intelligence , which by the way I admit is not that good is not in question here, but rather your integrity and decency towards others. Your comments towards almost every Bamber supporter is disgusting and almost unforgivable and quite frankly I cannot understand why the admin allow you to get away with it all the time? That is the part that puts me in doubt of this forum sometimes.

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« Reply #147 on: July 29, 2014, 03:17:AM »
For your information I don't adhere to everything Mike says. Neither have I ever given that impression. Your comments are both untrue and calculated to belittle my intelligence. My intelligence , which by the way I admit is not that good is not in question here, but rather your integrity and decency towards others. Your comments towards almost every Bamber supporter is disgusting and almost unforgivable and quite frankly I cannot understand why the admin allow you to get away with it all the time? That is the part that puts me in doubt of this forum sometimes.

When you yourself are calling me stupid or saying f-you or the like what exactly do you expect admin to do for you?  How coudl they sanction me and not do anything to you so maybe you shoudl think twice before the tirades you launch.

In the meantime there is a valid point to be made about people not taking evidence head on and living with pie in the sky attitudes with respect to Jeremy.

Just insisting you don't trust the moderator because the family found it means nothing.  People admit that the family would not have had a source of Sheila's blood to plant, would not have known her blood type to have been able to find a source of the same exact blood including same enzymes, would not have known the fatal shot defintely would result in drawback and would not have known how let alone bothered to plant the blood in a way to mimick back spatter they would have just used a dropper ofr the like to deposit it which would nto have resulted in the pattern found.

So that takes away the ability to argue the blood was planted by the family and thus that the family finding it taints it and makes it unrelaible.

Yet that is the common claim used to try to dismiss it so that Team Jeremy is not forced to seriously look into the issue because there is in relaity no way to refute the evidence and this alone is sufficient to prove Sheial could not have killed herself and that someone else did and that had to be Jeremy because of the evidence he gave that Sheila was bogus.

Never is there a well supported position put forth to refute this evidence just claims that peopel choose to discount it for reaosns that amount to littl emore than bias.

The same can be said for every major piece of evidence including the lack of any wounds or evidence on Sheila.  It is chalked up as her washing and changing her clothes even though she had no reason to do so and there is not a shred of evidence to suggest she did so.  No mater peopel say Jerey is innocent so as a result that means:  Sheila either committed the crime nude without getting any injuries and then washed, changed her clothes and nobody ever found those clothes though there was no way for Sheila to get rid of them or police found those clothes but destroyed them even though for about a month the premise they operated under was that Sheila did it and such clothing strongly would have supported their theory.

When you decide to ignore evidence because of an agenda that demosntrates bias.  When peopel have an agenda but refuse to admit it they are being dishonest, it is that simple.

If I were hired to defend Jeremy I would have an agenda but that agenda would be crystal clear and doesn't mean I would personally believe in his innocence just because I was being paid for him.  What I personally believed would be unrelated ot my job.  Nor would I simply try to convince others to believe he is innocent based on blind faith.  I would try to look at ALL the evidence that establishes his guilt and try to find a way to refute it, not to ignore it or dismiss it for some irrational reason but to try to refute it.

Refuting it entails at minimum undermining it by presenting an alternative explanation for the evidence that is reasonably likely to have occurred though ideally to prove the evidence to be completely wrong or impossible. 

 

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #148 on: July 29, 2014, 07:37:AM »
She didn't say anything about it being wet either.  Team Jeremy is always out trying to find a way to try to discredit the evidence through some stupid way instead of taking it head on as needs to be done to refute it.
It is a fact a blob of jam is jelly like, if it was dry it wouldn't exist .......... fact.

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« Reply #149 on: July 29, 2014, 07:57:AM »
When you yourself are calling me stupid or saying f-you or the like what exactly do you expect admin to do for you?  How coudl they sanction me and not do anything to you so maybe you shoudl think twice before the tirades you launch.

In the meantime there is a valid point to be made about people not taking evidence head on and living with pie in the sky attitudes with respect to Jeremy.

Just insisting you don't trust the moderator because the family found it means nothing.  People admit that the family would not have had a source of Sheila's blood to plant, would not have known her blood type to have been able to find a source of the same exact blood including same enzymes, would not have known the fatal shot defintely would result in drawback and would not have known how let alone bothered to plant the blood in a way to mimick back spatter they would have just used a dropper ofr the like to deposit it which would nto have resulted in the pattern found.

So that takes away the ability to argue the blood was planted by the family and thus that the family finding it taints it and makes it unrelaible.

Yet that is the common claim used to try to dismiss it so that Team Jeremy is not forced to seriously look into the issue because there is in relaity no way to refute the evidence and this alone is sufficient to prove Sheial could not have killed herself and that someone else did and that had to be Jeremy because of the evidence he gave that Sheila was bogus.

Never is there a well supported position put forth to refute this evidence just claims that peopel choose to discount it for reaosns that amount to littl emore than bias.

The same can be said for every major piece of evidence including the lack of any wounds or evidence on Sheila.  It is chalked up as her washing and changing her clothes even though she had no reason to do so and there is not a shred of evidence to suggest she did so.  No mater peopel say Jerey is innocent so as a result that means:  Sheila either committed the crime nude without getting any injuries and then washed, changed her clothes and nobody ever found those clothes though there was no way for Sheila to get rid of them or police found those clothes but destroyed them even though for about a month the premise they operated under was that Sheila did it and such clothing strongly would have supported their theory.

When you decide to ignore evidence because of an agenda that demosntrates bias.  When peopel have an agenda but refuse to admit it they are being dishonest, it is that simple.

If I were hired to defend Jeremy I would have an agenda but that agenda would be crystal clear and doesn't mean I would personally believe in his innocence just because I was being paid for him.  What I personally believed would be unrelated ot my job.  Nor would I simply try to convince others to believe he is innocent based on blind faith.  I would try to look at ALL the evidence that establishes his guilt and try to find a way to refute it, not to ignore it or dismiss it for some irrational reason but to try to refute it.

Refuting it entails at minimum undermining it by presenting an alternative explanation for the evidence that is reasonably likely to have occurred though ideally to prove the evidence to be completely wrong or impossible. 

 
I have to in retaliation simply because you are ALWAYS abusive towards other members. It's a joke that the moderators cannot see it? They let you get away with all this abuse, calling them fools and unintelligent and morons etc. You are just one big back of filth. At least I've got the guts that the moderators don't seem to have to stand up to your anti-social behaviour and constant belittling of the members of this forum. You scipio are just a bully towards other members who do not agree with you. You're so full of your own ego that you think that if anyone does not agree with you is either an idiot or brain dead.