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The police and relatives have made fools of the lot of us...
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Evidence exists to confirm that the silencer found at the scene by David Boutflour was not sent to the lab' to be checked for blood until 20th September 1985...
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Other evidence exists to confirm that the crucial flake of blood which produced the key blood group evidence upon which the decision to prosecute Bamber for the murdets wad fiscovered inside a different silencer already at the lab' on 111th Septemober 1985, and therefore taking these facts into account it stands to reason that the court which dealt with the case was seriously misled into believing the key blood evidence had been found inside one particular silencer with all the implications of the key blood evidence having been found in that silencer, when all along the key blood evidence was found inside a different silencer with its own implications not yet considered or rejected by a jury or any court...
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Evidence exists to confirm that the silencer found at the scene by David Boutflour was not sent to the lab' to be checked for blood until 20th September 1985...

It was already checked for blood the day it arrived at the lab 8/13/85 and the results were a large quantity of blood detected and if was determined to be human blood.  Police were notified of these findings on 8/14/85.  COLP found lab records that proved police were notified of such findings and questioned Davidson on the basis of such documents:




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It is a great leap of faith to try and suggest that the human blood detected in the silencer which Ron Cook marked as exhibit SJ/1 when he took it along to the lab' on 13th August 1985, for Glynis Howard to examine, and to say without any evidence whatsoever that the blood she refers to as being human, was in fact the same blood which between 12th and 19th September 1985, produced distinctive blood group activity of A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, and AK1, from inside a totally different silencer...

To begin with, the silencer (SJ/1) which had its exhibit reference altered into SBJ/1, because of a misunderstanding between Ron Cook and Stan Jones regarding the fact that Stan Jones had got a middle name (Brian), was not the same silencer which police sent along to the lab' on 30th August 1985 (DB/1), inside which the crucial key blood group evidence was detected between 12th and 19th September 1985. Silencers, SBJ/1 and DB/1 were completely different silencers to one another, easily distinguishable one from the other by the consecutive lab' item numbers of 22 and 23...

The same silencer could not possibly have had two different lab' item numbers...

Human blood was found in silencer 22, and the key blood group evidence, A, EAP BA, HP2-1, and AK/1, was foubd inside silencer 23...

The silencer relatives handed over was 22, which went to the lab' twice, once on 13th August 1985, and secondly, on 20th September 1985...

What this tells us in the clearest possible terms imaginable, is that between 13th August 1985 and 20th September 1985, the silencer handed to police by relatives was not present at the lab, so obviously the key blood group evidence cannot be physically linked to it (22)...

Police and prosecuting authorities have used the various exhibit references (SBJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1) in order to try and confuse everybody into believing these all related to one silencer, but in fact there were at least two key silencers, (22 and 23)  as described, with others thrown into the melting pot for good measure...

But, what they did, has now become exposed...

« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 06:53:PM by mike tesko »
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For almost 29 years, the scum who brought the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber have sought to present the silencer, key blood and paint evidence as eminating from and to a solitary silencer, which everyone now refers to as 'the Bamber owned silencer', or silencer 22, DRB/1...

Yet, at the time of the shootings, there was known to be kept at the scene an identical looking parker hale silencer, owned by one of the relatives...

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For almost 29 years, the scum who brought the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber have sought to present the silencer, key blood and paint evidence as eminating from and to a solitary silencer, which everyone now refers to as 'the Bamber owned silencer', or silencer 22, DRB/1...

Yet, at the time of the shootings, there was known to be kept at the scene an identical looking parker hale silencer, owned by one of the relatives...

Conseqiently. I pose the following question for all and sundry to consider:-

Was this the other silencer (DB/1) 23 inside which the key blood group evidence (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1,and AK/1, was discovered at the lab' on 12th September 1985...
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 07:32:PM by mike tesko »
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The investigation into the silencer issue has thrown up disturbing new evidence, that two different silencers had blood upon or inside them, for example, one (22) DRB/1, had human blood upon it, whilst the other (23) DB/1, had key blood group evidence found in the form of a loose flake within it...
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 08:21:PM by mike tesko »
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 Mike,I was led to believe that because the so-called flake was dissected to such a degree,for testing,that it disintegrated anyway and was useless. It'd probably been inside since Adam was a lad !

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It is a great leap of faith to try and suggest that the human blood detected in the silencer which Ron Cook marked as exhibit SJ/1 when he took it along to the lab' on 13th August 1985, for Glynis Howard to examine, and to say without any evidence whatsoever that the blood she refers to as being human, was in fact the same blood which between 12th and 19th September 1985, produced distinctive blood group activity of A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, and AK1, from inside a totally different silencer...

To begin with, the silencer (SJ/1) which had its exhibit reference altered into SBJ/1, because of a misunderstanding between Ron Cook and Stan Jones regarding the fact that Stan Jones had got a middle name (Brian), was not the same silencer which police sent along to the lab' on 30th August 1985 (DB/1), inside which the crucial key blood group evidence was detected between 12th and 19th September 1985. Silencers, SBJ/1 and DB/1 were completely different silencers to one another, easily distinguishable one from the other by the consecutive lab' item numbers of 22 and 23...

The same silencer could not possibly have had two different lab' item numbers...

Human blood was found in silencer 22, and the key blood group evidence, A, EAP BA, HP2-1, and AK/1, was foubd inside silencer 23...

The silencer relatives handed over was 22, which went to the lab' twice, once on 13th August 1985, and secondly, on 20th September 1985...

What this tells us in the clearest possible terms imaginable, is that between 13th August 1985 and 20th September 1985, the silencer handed to police by relatives was not present at the lab, so obviously the key blood group evidence cannot be physically linked to it (22)...

Police and prosecuting authorities have used the various exhibit references (SBJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1) in order to try and confuse everybody into believing these all related to one silencer, but in fact there were at least two key silencers, (22 and 23)  as described, with others thrown into the melting pot for good measure...

But, what they did, has now become exposed...

All you are doing is continuing to humilate yourself.

The Holab forms never stated SJ/1 but rather stated SBJ/1.  That is what the forms signed by Howard on 8/13/85 had as an exhibit number.  There were multiple SBJ exhibits turned in to the lab that day.  Right off the bat you are lying.  You got SJ/1 from Cook's statement.  He noted that in his notebook he wrote SJ/1 but upon speaking to Jones and finding out his middle name he ende dup using SBJ/1 on the Holab forms, so there never was a SJ/1.  That was just what he initially contemplated assigning but didn't.

It was changed to DB/1 after they already did all the tests on the blood and still later changed to DRB/1.  Each time a change occurred ALL the exhibits with the SBJ prefix changed to DB and then DRB. 

Your whol fantasy acount is easily shown to be lies you made up there never was more than 1 moderator in custody in conncetion with the case in 1985.


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COLP notes relating to the interview of Ron Cook hives a comprehensive explanation as to whu Cook attached a brown CJA exhibit label to the silencer he took along to the lab' for the attention of Hlynis Howard on 13th August 1985. Cook says that thesilencer he took there on that occasion did not have any exhibit label or identifying mark. So Ron attached a label and marked it, SJ/1...

Cook and Howard both signed this particular label (SJ/1) at positions two and three. Cook says yhe first space on the exhibit label was left blank for thr finder of the silencer to sign it latsr. Copk says that he was indet the impression that Stan Jones found the silencer, and that he expected him to sign the label (SJ/1), and Cook says he did not know thay Stan Jones had a middle christian name (Brian), otherwise, he would have labelled the silencer SBJ/1...

However, DS Jones already had seized four exhibits from the scene on the morning of the shootings, which had exhibits references of SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4...

Therefore, by the time Ron Cook introduced the exhibit label which he attached to the silencer he took to the lab on 13th August 1985, there existed twi different identical looking parker hale silencers, one marked SBJ/1, and anither which Ron Cook had earmarked SJ/1...

Cook and Howard signed the exhibit label (SJ/1) that Cook had put on the silencer he took to the lab on 13th August 1985...

All these details are recorded in the case files, and help to make a nonsense of those fron the dark side of life...
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Glynis Howard told COLP investigators that she only ever examined one silencer, on one occasion, and that was the silencer Ron Cook brought to the lab' on that occasion...
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COLP notes relating to the interview of Ron Cook hives a comprehensive explanation as to whu Cook attached a brown CJA exhibit label to the silencer he took along to the lab' for the attention of Hlynis Howard on 13th August 1985. Cook says that thesilencer he took there on that occasion did not have any exhibit label or identifying mark. So Ron attached a label and marked it, SJ/1...

Cook and Howard both signed this particular label (SJ/1) at positions two and three. Cook says yhe first space on the exhibit label was left blank for thr finder of the silencer to sign it latsr. Copk says that he was indet the impression that Stan Jones found the silencer, and that he expected him to sign the label (SJ/1), and Cook says he did not know thay Stan Jones had a middle christian name (Brian), otherwise, he would have labelled the silencer SBJ/1...

However, DS Jones already had seized four exhibits from the scene on the morning of the shootings, which had exhibits references of SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4...

Therefore, by the time Ron Cook introduced the exhibit label which he attached to the silencer he took to the lab on 13th August 1985, there existed twi different identical looking parker hale silencers, one marked SBJ/1, and anither which Ron Cook had earmarked SJ/1...

Cook and Howard signed the exhibit label (SJ/1) that Cook had put on the silencer he took to the lab on 13th August 1985...

All these details are recorded in the case files, and help to make a nonsense of those fron the dark side of life...

They are not in the case file you made all these claims up.



Cook wrote SJ/1 in his pocketbook but after speaking with Jones he ended up writing SBJ/1 SBJ/2 SNJ/3 and SBJ/4 on the Holab forms that accompanied the moderator to the lab.

The holab forms were exbits the people questioning him had provided so he could see as plain as day what they stated since he could not be expected to remember after years passed.

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Glynis Howard told COLP investigators that she only ever examined one silencer, on one occasion, and that was the silencer Ron Cook brought to the lab' on that occasion...

Ron Cook is clear and specific, there was no label at all on the silencer Stan Jones had given him earlier that same date, so when Ron arrived at the lab he attached a blank brown coloured CJA. exhibit label to it. Which he marked SJ/1, that both he and Glynis Howard both signed. So we have it from the horses mouth, the exhibit label which both Ron and Glynis signed, had an identifying mark of SJ/1, item 22, not SBJ/1, not DB/1, and not DRB/1...
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Ron Cook is clear and specific, there was no label at all on the silencer Stan Jones had given him earlier that same date, so when Ron arrived at the lab he attached a blank brown coloured CJA. exhibit label to it. Which he marked SJ/1, that both he and Glynis Howard both signed. So we have it from the horses mouth, the exhobit label which both Ron and Glynis signed, had an identifying mark of SJ/1, item 22, not SBJ/1, not DB/1, and not DRB/1...

The passage I posted proves you are lying.  The document Howard signed is the same one COLP provided to Cook to look at and it listed the exhibits as SBJ/1-SBJ/4.  Your claim the document listed them as SJ/1-SJ/4 is a lie and easy to see as a lie jsut from reading the passage above.  SJ/1-4 was liste din hsi pocketbook only.
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