A shooting incident at White House farm

[maggie]

I suppose there were no brave Hawaii five-O officers among them then?

The mind boggles Grahame 

[guest154]

Grahame,,if shots were heard,then that lets Jeremy off the hook does it not ?

Well obviously. But no shots were heard.

[lookout]

No wonder Jeremy was pacing up and down chain-smoking,,so would I have been. When you consider that EP knew that there were children inside the farmhouse. Questions SHOULD have been asked and heads SHOULD have rolled. Jeremy should have insisted on an inquiry as to why so much time was wasted.

[nugnug]

well if had remained freee he might well of done.

all the more reason to get him out the way.

[lookout]

well if had remained freee he might well of done.

all the more reason to get him out the way.

That was the grand idea. They'd have hanged him without hesitation if it had been in force.

[nugnug]

of course once they had sent down for murder they knew nobody would believe him.

[Bill Robertson]

We don't know of course? Perhaps if they had heard shots they would have gone in? As I said I believe they are trained to wait.

You have to look at this case through a 1985 lens, not a 2014 lens. In 1985 a police officer was expected to deal with a situation (on his own in many cases). Hanging back and waiting was not what we were trained to do and was not the culture or custom and practice.

Bews should have entered the premises unless he had solid evidence that his life was in danger and if the police are to be believed there was no evidence.

Overtime was severely rationed. He should have found out why the light was on in the downstairs kitchen. If the family were sat round the table having a cuppa and Bews had caused the Tactical Firearms Group to assemble he would have not just been a laughing stock, he would have been on the carpet for a severe bollocking.

It is disgusting that Bews abandoned people to their fate; people who could have been rescued. Unless of course Bews had some other information that has never been disclosed.

[nugnug]

and if he hadent seen or herad anything he had abslutly no reason to think hes life was in danger.

[lookout]

You have to look at this case through a 1985 lens, not a 2014 lens. In 1985 a police officer was expected to deal with a situation (on his own in many cases). Hanging back and waiting was not what we were trained to do and was not the culture or custom and practice.

Bews should have entered the premises unless he had solid evidence that his life was in danger and if the police are to be believed there was no evidence.

Overtime was severely rationed. He should have found out why the light was on in the downstairs kitchen. If the family were sat round the table having a cuppa and Bews had caused the Tactical Firearms Group to assemble he would have not just been a laughing stock, he would have been on the carpet for a severe bollocking.

It is disgusting that Bews abandoned people to their fate; people who could have been rescued. Unless of course Bews had some other information that has never been disclosed.

I think it's disgusting too,Bill-----------nearly 3 hours !? I don't suppose anyone thought of weighing up Jeremys' behaviour during this time,because some " clever cops "  ( old school ones ) can usually tell at certain points whether someone is guilty or not,and I would have said this would have been a good opportunity to have studied his behaviour. I know he wasn't a suspect at this stage.

[nugnug]

and those days shooting incidents were rare so they would have less reason to consider there safety.

[Caroline]

All his interviews ae just a defence of his own cowardly actions.

I agree he was a coward - if he had entered the house when they arrived there, we probably wouldn't be discussing it now.

[nugnug]

well its was just him nobody went in even the armed unit and it was there job to go  in.

[Bill Robertson]

well its was just him nobody went in even the armed unit and it was there job to go  in.

Take a look outside the window one morning this week at 05:00; it is pretty much broad daylight. yet we are told that the Firearms group were waiting for daylight at 07:30. Total BS.

[nugnug]

im not sure why daylight wa so important to them anyway im mea surely they had entred places at night before.

[lookout]

Take a look outside the window one morning this week at 05:00; it is pretty much broad daylight. yet we are told that the Firearms group were waiting for daylight at 07:30. Total BS.

There's just NO excuse,Bill. They were all clearly out of their depth,the same as they were over the Diane Jones murder.