why does jeremy need a bike.

[Adam]

The police supposedly questioned 500 people to see if at any time of night anyo of them knew of Jeremy being on the road, leaving his house or going to his house and they found no witnesses at all.

Far from being shocking that is the norm because people don't usually pay attention to passing cars at night and unles sthere is a commotion pay no mind to the comings and goinggs of neighbors especially once they go to bed.

Furthermore, unless someone has a rare distinctive car that no one else has you can't even tell if a friend is in a car or not when the car passes by yours in the opposite direction.   

The police questioned 500 people. Do you have a source please ?

It is just proving my point that he did not drive to WHF. There is less chance of being seen or heard. 

[scipio_usmc]

The police questioned 500 people. Do you have a source please ?

It is just proving my point that he did not drive to WHF. There is less chance of being seen or heard.

How does it prove your point?  On the contrary it demolishes your claim that he would definitely be seen driving a car so had to use a bike.

[Adam]

I have just asked you three times for a source on three different posts. Please supply them. People do provide sources on here. Otherwise people can just say anything.  Thank you.

Please also supply the post where I said Jeremy would 'definitely' be seen driving.

I said he 'might' be seen - post 17 which has not been edited.

[scipio_usmc]

I have just asked you three times for a source on three different posts. Please supply them. People do provide sources on here. Otherwise people can just say anything.  Thank you.

Please also supply the post where I said Jeremy would 'definitely' be seen driving.

I said he 'might' be seen - post 17 which has not been edited.

I saw your request, you can do the leg work yourself for once.  Produce evidence of testimony from someone who saw Jeremy on the road.  I am not going to aid you at all in your efforts even by giving you the name of his neighbors have fun searching yourself.  You would never post here again if you decided you were going to not post until you could provide evidence someone saw him leave for WHF/drive to WHF apart from the cops. 

   

[Adam]

I saw your request, you can do the leg work yourself for once.  Produce evidence of testimony from someone who saw Jeremy on the road.  I am not going to aid you at all in your efforts even by giving you the name of his neighbors have fun searching yourself.  You would never post here again if you decided you were going to not post until you could provide evidence someone saw him leave for WHF/drive to WHF apart from the cops. 

 

I asked you politely for three sources of things you just claimed.

This is a discussion forum and people share information and sources upon request.

You have not provided any sources. Therefore you have not got any of the sources. Which I knew already.

I also asked you to show me the post where I said Jeremy would 'definitely' be seen if he drove. You didn't.

Me produce evidence that someone saw Jeremy on the road ? I have never claimed he drove there. So why should I ?

[grahameb]

You mean the relatives had saucy pictures of the judge ?

Jeremy had been telling Julie for months of his plans. It is in her WS.

There is no record in the court transcripts in Wilkes's book of the judge asking Julie about her NOTW deal. Did he ask Jeremy about his NOTW deal ? Jeremy has tried and failed to negate Julie's testimony.

Well I believe it was ngb who mentioned the prosecution counsel asking the judge in chambers whether JM had signed up to a NOTW deal.
As for Jeremy's newspaper deal, well it was his life he was gambling on, not JM's. Correction, it is alleged by JM  that he had been planning it for months. It would still be very silly of him to go on talking to her about how he had done it when the relationship was nearing its end. Sorry mate, it doesn't make any sense to me that he would have told her.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5222.0.html

Lots of reasons why Jeremy would tell Julie.

[grahameb]

Not everyone.

Jeremy might very well have been afraid of being seen or heard and thus opted to use the bike but it is unlikely he would have been seen or heard at that hour so he coudl have used the car and I would have used a car.

Jeremy's neighbors never heard him drive to WHF to meet police though we know for a fact he did.  They slept through him starting his car and driving away.  Other than police no one saw him make the drive to WHF and police saw him only because he was on the side of the road waiting for them to pass or he would have beat them there and no one would have seen him make the journey.

People do not usually get out of bed or even off the couch to go look at a car passing by on the street.

People do not usually pay attention to passing cars unless they expect a visitor.

People who do see a car usually end up seeing it by simply accident as they happen to be outside or looking out a window by chance.

People conversing loudly is usually what gets people to look out a window and notice oh they are leaving or oh they arrived.   

The chance of anyone seeing Jeremy drive away or arrive back home would be minimial and the chance of someone along the path being able to identify his car in the dark would be nil.

The chance of someone he knows being out at that hour to be driving on the same path and thus to encounter and also recognize him would be small as well.

Thus Jeremy could indeed have driven there.  The fact he told Julie he planned to use a bike and that he took his mother's bike to use is what suggests he used  abike.

But the last minute he could have potentially decided to use a car and to have scrapped the bike plan. The notion he can't have used a car is wrong.

Walking would be the least chance of being seen because in the dark you could not only hide if you see the lights of a car approaching the chance of anyone recognizing you even if they see you is slim.  The time and effort involved in a 6 mile walk is why 1 would not want to do it.

The bike is good because JUST IN CASE a neighbor comes home very late and actually notices your car missing and remembers to tell police that can be damaging.  To avoid some unlikely freak occurrence where someone actually notices your car gone you would prefer a bike.

He clearly planned to use the bike but whether he went through with the plan or just decided "ah screw it I'll use the car" we will never know.

Yes I would agree with most of what you have said. A good point about people not noticing cars driving about. Hey mate, I saw someone nick your bike last night and rode off in the direction of the sea wall. He had flippers and a wet suit on.

[grahameb]

I asked you politely for three sources of things you just claimed.

This is a discussion forum and people share information and sources upon request.

You have not provided any sources. Therefore you have not got any of the sources. Which I knew already.

I also asked you to show me the post where I said Jeremy would 'definitely' be seen if he drove. You didn't.

Me produce evidence that someone saw Jeremy on the road ? I have never claimed he drove there. So why should I ?

Adam even when someone supplies sources you contradict them and say something to the effect that it's not in Wilkes book so it can't be true.

[Adam]

Who is mentioning a wet suit and flippers ?

Do you think Jeremy was very unlucky that the bike arrived at WHF three days before the massacre.

AE & Robert Boutflour immediately became more suspicious. The police felt Jeremy rode there & Julie said Jeremy was planning to cycle to WHF.

Bet Jeremy wishes he had not put his mothers bike into the back of his car and taken it back to his cottage. Three days before the massacre.

[Adam]

Adam even when someone supplies sources you contradict them and say something to the effect that it's not in Wilkes book so it can't be true.

No I don't.

A source is a source. I will think again about asking you for one. The last few requests were not supplied. The very last one you said f___ you and called me a d___head.

[grahameb]

Who is mentioning a wet suit and flippers ?

Do you think Jeremy was very unlucky that the bike arrived at WHF three days before the massacre.

AE & Robert Boutflour immediately became more suspicious. The police felt Jeremy rode there & Julie said Jeremy was planning to cycle to WHF.

Bet Jeremy wishes he had not put his mothers bike into the back of his car and taken it back to his cottage. Three days before the massacre.

I bet you're right too. But who's to know what other innocent things the relatives would pick on in order to make Jeremy look guilty?