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What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« on: June 22, 2014, 09:15:AM »
The consensus seems to be everyone died between 3.20am - 3.48am, if Sheila committed the massacre. Sheila then having a shower,  changing, somehow shooting herself with the silencer attached, putting the silencer away, painting her nails. Then waiting for the raid team to enter before going upstairs and firing her second shot.

If it was Jeremy what time did everyone die ?

After his 10am phone call to Julie, Jeremy would have to get prepared and cycle to WHF without being seen. Doing this at 11am is too early. There is still a slim chance someone would see him cycle over. People at WHF may still be awake at 11.00pm. The same would also apply to a lesser extent at midnight.

Jeremy rang Julie at 3.00am. Either as soon as he arrived back as he was so hyped up & excited. Or after he had cleaned up. Which means he left WHF around 2.30am. This suggests the massacre took place at 2.00am. No one would see him travel to and from WHF at that time. Everyone should be in bed in a deep sleep at this time. The perfect time for a multiple execution.

The massacre period was quick. Jeremy almost certainly entering the main bedroom first and firing all 11 bullets. There was a brief but brutal kitchen fight before Jeremy had to reload. He then quickly fired another 3 bullets into Neville. Then went upstairs and fired 8 bullets into the asleep twins.

It was then time for another reload. Sheila in a sedated state according to the 2002 appeal was either lead, carried or already in the main bedroom. Jeremy shooting her twice,  taking the silencer off and putting it at the back of the gun cupboard. Pulling her legs and then putting the gun and bible by/on her.

Does everyone agree the most likely time everyone died was between 2.00am - 2.30am ?

« Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 09:39:AM by Adam »
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2014, 10:18:AM »
 NO,I don't agree that everyone died at that time !!

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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2014, 10:41:AM »
What time do you think everyone died if it was Jeremy ?

It would have to be between 11pm - 2.30am. That is the period where Jeremy cannot prove where he was.

He said he watched television, but what he watched at what time did not match the actual programme times. After watching TV he said he then went to bed. Sleeping 'like a log' before surprisingly being woken by his downstairs phone.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 10:50:AM by Adam »
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2014, 11:05:AM »
What time do you think everyone died if it was Jeremy ?

It would have to be between 11pm - 2.30am. That is the period where Jeremy cannot prove where he was.

He said he watched television, but what he watched at what time did not match the actual programme times. After watching TV he said he then went to bed. Sleeping 'like a log' before surprisingly being woken by his downstairs phone.

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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2014, 11:11:AM »
Elaborate on the bold statements you make please.

The police disputed what he said in the interview transcripts. Anyway the programme discussed was on hours before the 2.00am - 3.00am period.

I suspect Jeremy may have had the TV on in the background while he was getting ready. Do you agree ?
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2014, 11:37:AM »
Elaborate on the bold statements you make please.

The police disputed what he said in the interview transcripts. Anyway the programme discussed was on hours before the 2.00am - 3.00am period.

I suspect Jeremy may have had the TV on in the background while he was getting ready. Do you agree ?

I don't have to elaborate on anything - you're wrong! You brought up the TV programming and now you're dismissing your own point  ;D ;D. I have no idea what he was doing but was able to give a good account of what he watched.
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2014, 11:42:AM »
What time do you think everyone died if it was Jeremy ?

It would have to be between 11pm - 2.30am. That is the period where Jeremy cannot prove where he was.

He said he watched television, but what he watched at what time did not match the actual programme times. After watching TV he said he then went to bed. Sleeping 'like a log' before surprisingly being woken by his downstairs phone.




It wouldn't have had to have been between 11 and 2.30 at all ! What about Nevilles' call ??

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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2014, 11:58:AM »



It wouldn't have had to have been between 11 and 2.30 at all ! What about Nevilles' call ??

Neville's call was at 3.20am. If Jeremy massacred everyone after  2.30am, he would have had to have staged the scene, cycled back and rang Julie. All before 3.20am. That is really pushing it.
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2014, 12:23:PM »
I don't have to elaborate on anything - you're wrong! You brought up the TV programming and now you're dismissing your own point  ;D ;D. I have no idea what he was doing but was able to give a good account of what he watched.

Jeremy was even hazy about what was on TV when everyone agrees he was at home at around 11pm. Other things on his mind, preparing. Or both ?
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2014, 12:34:PM »
Jeremy was even hazy about what was on TV when everyone agrees he was at home at around 11pm. Other things on his mind, preparing. Or both ?

Or tired? Had been working 14 hours...

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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2014, 12:52:PM »
Or tired? Had been working 14 hours...

I doubt if he was even asked about what he watched until his second interviews ( a month later) so a bit of a non starter really  ;)

I doubt if Adam could reel off what he watched a week ago with any accuracy.

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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2014, 01:07:PM »
I doubt if he was even asked about what he watched until his second interviews ( a month later) so a bit of a non starter really  ;)

I doubt if Adam could reel off what he watched a week ago with any accuracy.

actually it was in his first statements so I stand corrected -but I can not see where anyone said he was wrong - so source please Adam

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« Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 02:23:PM by Adam »
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Re: What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2014, 02:26:PM »
Neville's call was at 3.20am. If Jeremy massacred everyone after  2.30am, he would have had to have staged the scene, cycled back and rang Julie. All before 3.20am. That is really pushing it.





Cycled ? Get real !

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