One big problem with a prolonged attack is th lack of noise, Jodi fought her attacker and fought for her life wouldn't she have screamed for it also! The lack of any credible witnesses to noise from any area that night is really strange, if the crime was later than 5:15 were getting to the time when dog owners were taking their dogs for their last evening walk someone had to have heard something
Likewise wouldn't she be screaming if she was being stalked/pursued through the woods as Sandra suggests?
Unless of course she was over there with someone she knew, by choice.
Ah! Something on which we can agree. The question then would have to be, who would that someone be? There were two people known to her, at the V point, at the exact time it was claimed she was murdered. There are witnesses to this, both people admit they were there and both people lied to try to cover up the fact that they were there. Neither of them was Luke.
As we know, hardly a single word of JaF's statement can be believed - we know it was his condom and that's about it. But interestingly, he claimed it was getting "grey dark" and he thought it was about 9 - 9.30. It didn't start getting dark until around 10.30 that evening, but even if he was mistaken about the level of darkness, what can we make of the time? Another mistake? An outright lie? Or the truth, in which case, either he did, in fact, step over Jodi's body, or she wasn't there.
He wouldn't have had to "step over Jodi's body", why do you keep saying this? It's an insult to the intelligence of anybody who has ever seen the crime scene. Why can't he have just walked past/been near it? In reality, he would have no reason to step as close to the wall as where Jodi lay.
Anyone who has seen the crime scene knows you have just blatantly tried to mislead people. The pathway behind the wall, from the V point, runs along the front of the wall. Jodi's body was lying out from the wall with her feet closest to the path. Unless he was scrambling through bushes, this was the only route (the one he, himself, claimed to have taken) by which he could reach the point he said he reached before turning back after doing what he did.
i find it hard to belive that the spaneils wouldent of sniffed out the body but that goes on the assumption that there was a body there at the time.
But you don't find it hard to believe Luke's dog never sniffed out the body when they walked directly past it on the way up the path... Different story on the way back though in front of the search party. That's what I find hard to believe.
The spaniels were behind the wall, in the woodland strip, not on leads. I've already explained that the dog may have reacted on the way up, that reaction being perceived as her being "excitable." The official line is that Luke went to extraordinary lengths to "cover up" then led the family directly to the body - isn't that kind of hard to believe?
That's just half an hour before JF was supposed to return to JoJ's house to smoke cannabis with him, but somehow, he forgot to go
Or simply changed hid mind? But hey don't let a chance to point suspicion at anyone but Luke go to waste. Luke's family can completely forget seeing him in the house and being served dinner by him but that's fine I suppose.
Or simply changed his mind, except, that's not the reason he gave. Luke's mother never "forgot" seeing him, Shane could not remember if he'd seen Luke or not, initially - not quite the same thing, is it? Again, no pointing fingers of suspicion, just the facts.
is there anyone out there who still believes jodi was on that path and the crime being committed at this time......
Yes. Nobody heard any struggle because she was over there with her boyfriend...
Who left not a trace of himself on her, at the crime scene, or anywhere along the "escape route," in his home, anywhere.
Hi sandra
I know it's a bit off topic, I'm really interested in what's being g posted at the moment but do you know what the general feeling g regarding luke and his guilt or innocence is within the local community now.?
Surely there is doubt and if so is it spoken about at all.
There isn't. The only people who believe Luke is isn't is the small few you'll see posting on forums like this. The local community is comfortable that the right person is behind bars, supported by the complete absense of any other similar attacks since Luke's incarceration.
Interesting claim. I guess we'll just have to agree to differ (another point of agreement!)
Why is every item contaminated by singular sperm cells!! we can produce up to 200 million in one ejaculaton so why just singular ones dotted around every item of clothing apart from the hoodie?
Because this reinforces the fact that innocent transfer explanation is by far the most likely. Nobody ejaculated at the murder scene.
It reinforces the fact that
transfer is a plausible explanation, not "innocent" transfer. I suppose JaF filled that condom by transferring drop by drop, did he? No-one has ever tried to suggest anyone ejaculated on Jodi or on her clothing.
