The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[sandra L]

I believe Luke Mitchell to be 100% innocent of the murder of Jodi Jones, that has not changed.

There was no "sudden silence" - I said on December 10th I would come back once I'd had a chance to look through the notes I still have during my up-coming holidays, which were from December 23rd to January 5th.

However, for the first time in years, I used those holidays as... holidays. Yup, took some time out to relax and do a whole lot of nothing before going back to work.

Sorry I didn't use more of my own precious time to provide the documented evidence I've provided over and over again for years - just felt time for myself was more important this time.

If I get around to pulling out the boxes of papers, I'll post what I have, but I'm no longer prepared to drop everything and put the rest of my life on hold because some stranger on the internet demands information I've provided dozens of times before.

For those who are genuinely interested in Luke's case, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, I hope you understand.

[guest154]

I believe Luke Mitchell to be 100% innocent of the murder of Jodi Jones, that has not changed.

There was no "sudden silence" - I said on December 10th I would come back once I'd had a chance to look through the notes I still have during my up-coming holidays, which were from December 23rd to January 5th.

However, for the first time in years, I used those holidays as... holidays. Yup, took some time out to relax and do a whole lot of nothing before going back to work.

Sorry I didn't use more of my own precious time to provide the documented evidence I've provided over and over again for years - just felt time for myself was more important this time.

If I get around to pulling out the boxes of papers, I'll post what I have, but I'm no longer prepared to drop everything and put the rest of my life on hold because some stranger on the internet demands information I've provided dozens of times before.

For those who are genuinely interested in Luke's case, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, I hope you understand.

Ignore xxxx xxx xxxx xxxx xxxxxxxx as usual. Thanks for clearing up your position on the case, hopefully Lithium takes their post back - or posts their reason for why they made that claim in the first place.

[marty]

Ignore xxxx xxx xxxx xxxx xxxxxxxx as usual. Thanks for clearing up your position on the case, hopefully Lithium takes their post back - or posts their reason for why they made that claim in the first place.

Wonder who lithium has been listening to.

[nugnug]

im guessing nobody just a wild guess.

[Stephanie]

What I am wondering and I assume others will be wondering is will there be an explanation for leaving?
I have been reading the WAP forum for a long time and this sudden departure seems suspicious.
It makes me wonder has Sandra Lean found out something she did not know before?
I think a statement as to why this relationship has broken down so badly should be forthcoming.
Its not fair to just up and leave and say nothing.

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You asked the same questions about me!?

It's referred to as the rinse, spin and repeat pattern.

[Stephanie]

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You asked the same questions about me!?

It's referred to as the rinse, spin and repeat pattern.

What I am wondering and I assume others will be wondering is will there be an explanation for leaving?
I have been reading the WAP forum for a long time and this sudden departure seems suspicious.
It makes me wonder has Sandra Lean found out something she did not know before?
I think a statement as to why this relationship has broken down so badly should be forthcoming.
Its not fair to just up and leave and say nothing.

But you couldn't afford to pose this one question - you knew I'd found out something I didn't know before - I'd found out lots of things I didn't know before and you helped me find those things out.

[John]

I believe Luke Mitchell to be 100% innocent of the murder of Jodi Jones, that has not changed.

There was no "sudden silence" - I said on December 10th I would come back once I'd had a chance to look through the notes I still have during my up-coming holidays, which were from December 23rd to January 5th.

However, for the first time in years, I used those holidays as... holidays. Yup, took some time out to relax and do a whole lot of nothing before going back to work.

Sorry I didn't use more of my own precious time to provide the documented evidence I've provided over and over again for years - just felt time for myself was more important this time.

If I get around to pulling out the boxes of papers, I'll post what I have, but I'm no longer prepared to drop everything and put the rest of my life on hold because some stranger on the internet demands information I've provided dozens of times before.

For those who are genuinely interested in Luke's case, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, I hope you understand.

I think you are just a tad naive to claim to know that Mitchell is 100% innocent given everything which has been established in the case and in particular the fact that Luke and Shane's respective evidence was poles apart. By the way, how do you explain this?

[nugnug]

so if there was skin under jodis fingernails and lukes the killer how comes hes unmarked when examend that night.

[marty]

so if there was skin under jodis fingernails and lukes the killer how comes hes unmarked when examend that night.

Was there skin found? I didn't anything was found under her nails. To be honest though, can't really remember.

[nugnug]

well at the appeal markkane was
dismissed as a suspect on the grounds his dna dident match the dna under jodis fingernails

the only dna you can get under your fingernails is skin.

[marty]

So obviously it wasn't Luke's either. Was it a full profile

[nugnug]

well you would think that wold be the obvios conclusion.

i cant rember with it was a full profile or not but if it wasnt close to one i cant see how they could clear kane.


it would of had to have been at least a near full profile.

[sandra L]

well at the appeal markkane was
dismissed as a suspect on the grounds his dna dident match the dna under jodis fingernails

the only dna you can get under your fingernails is skin.

Not sure where this came from nugnug, but it's not correct. MK was never eliminated on these grounds. There was no full DNA profile identified from the samples taken from Jodi's fingernails. The results that were officially recorded were that fingernail scrapings from her left hand were inconclusive - there were never any results for her right hand - the one it was argued she "fought to the death" with.

[nugnug]

i defentatly remember this being said though at the time i was a bit suprised becouse i couldent see how it dident clear luke as well.

[sandra L]

I don't remember it, Nugnug, but to be honest, the contortions which allowed both Kane and Falconer to be eliminated, both at the time and after the fact, are pretty shocking.

Dobbie set the parameters for the house to house enquiries to stop the house before Falconer's. Then his brothers brought themselves to police attention by pointing out a hoodie that belonged to one of them - even though they were in the house discussing the hoodie, the police didn't ask questions about anyone else in the household, even though Falconer would later claim to have masturbated behind a tree within the police cordon the morning after Jodi was found.

When he was finally brought to their attention by a police DNA database check 3 years later, he lied about pretty much everything (and was caught doing so), but they let it go because the case was "closed."

Kane gave them the story about "going to the press for £50k" which, when you think about it, is one helluva risky strategy - you go tell the cops it was you, then, when they eliminate you, we'll go to the press and split the money. What if they'd believed him? The Crown accepted his story at face value (there was nothing whatsoever to substantiate it), and ignored the fact that others had witnessed Kane acting strangely the day after the murder. One witness told police Kane had told him just after the murder that he had been spoken to by police because he had been seen running on the Newbattle Road - according to the case papers, Kane was never spoken to at all - he was on the list to be interviewed, but they never managed to trace him.

I'm not suggesting either of these people was involved in Jodi's murder - what I'm saying is the original investigation was very, very poor, in that it focused almost entirely and exclusively on Luke, and failed /o cast more than the merest glance/ in any other direction.

The Advocate Depute at appeal actually claimed there was "no [DNA] match whatsoever" to either Kane or Falconer, which is ludicrous, since it was the Crown which alerted the defence to the full profile match with Falconer* being found during another investigation.

John said

I think you are just a tad naive to claim to know that Mitchell is 100% innocent

Misquote - I said I believe Luke to be 100% innocent - just keeping the record straight

* post corrected to amend error SL 19/07/16