Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1055652 times)

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actions in the hours following the murder

What about his actions specifically?

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the absence of an alibi

His Mother gives an alibi which they did not disprove in court and his brother never out right said Luke wasn't home so it's not the smoking gun for me as it is for you.

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the conflicting statements

Conflicting statements and changing statements do a lot to make him look innocent too.

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the eyewitness sightings

One damning eye witness but she doesn't identify him court. And gets so much wrong.

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Mitchell's past conduct with a knife


He liked knives. A teenage boy? Unheard of.

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he had the means, the motive and the opportunity to do it

Motive? What's his motive again? The secret girlfriend that Jodi didn't seem to know about or his disproved Marilyn Manson obsession?


Not bad for a first attempt.

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Oh dear Baz doesn't know about Luke's previous threats and assaults with a knife.

What other threats and assaults were used in court? Happy to learn.

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Oh dear Baz doesn't know about Luke's previous threats and assaults with a knife.

he had no prvios convictions for or chardges for atacking anybody with a knife a few people after he was convicted who had never any previos compliants before the conviction.

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he had no prvios convictions for or chardges for atacking anybody with a knife a few people after he was convicted who had never any previos compliants before the conviction.

Neither did Nathan Matthews
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i have qustion the word of somone who only with a story after somones been convicted these allegations were never tested in a court

so no way of knoeing weather they are true or not.

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i have qustion the word of somone who only with a story after somones been convicted these allegations were never tested in a court

so no way of knoeing weather they are true or not.

I doubt it would have been allowed to be heard during the trial.... It's normally after a case has been heard these stories come out. Not out of the ordinary imo.
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that could of possbly been heard as evedence.

but then agian the people concerned never went to the police they went to the tabloids.

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that could of possbly been heard as evedence.

but then agian the people concerned never went to the police they went to the tabloids.

I imagine they did speak to the police but maybe it couldn't be heard during the trial? You'd be surprised what the police do uncover..... Evidence of which is often 'played down,' distorted/twisted etc....
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I imagine they did speak to the police but maybe it couldn't be heard during the trial? You'd be surprised what the police do uncover..... Evidence of which is often 'played down,' distorted/twisted etc....

A different case (I imagine very little has been said to protect the child in question) but it appears Nathan Matthews & Shauna Hoare carried out their crimes with a/their child in the house  :'(

"Hoare went out into the garden for 15 to 20 minutes to smoke a cigarette before going back inside the house to join Matthews.

She gave a child in the house some Shreddies cereal to eat and heard music playing upstairs
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-stepbrother-6621107

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thats a diffrent altogether.

the fact luke was never chardged with these says they never went near a police station.

he could of been chardged with threateng bacior with knives on topp of murder and tat would of strenthrnrf the proscution case.

a bit funny he wasnt.
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thats a diffrent altogether.

the fact luke was never chardged with these says they never went near a police station.

he could of been chardged with threateng bacior with knives on topp of murder and tat would of strenthrnrf the proscution case.

a bit funny he hasnt.

I've mentioned this case before in relation to Luke Mitchell's case due to the gruesome aspects of the murder/post Mortum injuries and whether or not anything can be drawn from it...

Nugs I believe you are talking about previous allegations of threatening behaviour towards other with a knife by Luke M, which wouldn't have been related to JJ's murder trial?
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the fact luke was never chardged with these says they never went near a police station.

he could of been chardged with threateng bacior with knives on topp of murder and tat would of strenthrnrf the proscution case.

a bit funny he hasnt.

I don't think that's unusual in cases like this
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he was charged with possen of canbis as well as murder.

now its rather they would add on a fhardge of possen but not a chardge of making threats with a knife.

if your chardged you can be chardged with other things at the same time meaning the evdence can be heard like it was with the canabis.

with such a weak hand the proscution would of jumped at the chance of geting such evdence into court.

so the only reason i can think this dident happen is it was never reported to the police and you have to ask yourself why it wasnt.

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he was charged with possen of canbis as well as murder.

now its rather they would add on a fhardge of possen but not a chardge of making threats with a knife.

if your chardged you can be chardged with other things at the same time meaning the evdence can be heard like it was with the canabis.

with such a weak hand the proscution would of jumped at the chance of geting such evdence into court.

so the only reason i can think this dident happen is it was never reported to the police and you have to ask yourself why it wasnt.

"A knife pouch was also found in Mitchell's possession on which he had marked "JJ 1989 - 2003" and "The finest day I ever had was when tomorrow never came". The prosecution said it would be unlikely for anyone but the killer to remember someone killed with a knife in this way

Mitchell was a good student, but a teacher became concerned about the violence in an essay he had written.
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thats a quate from somwhere the proscution trying to make somthing out of nothing like proscuters do.