Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1055506 times)

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Shane's knows the truth though doesn't he missy??   ;D

Even though mummy tried to persuade him ......
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Jodi Jones in happier times....


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a lot of people know the truth and there starting to come forward now.

Shane has never been convicted of lying to the police now that's probably because he didn't

nor  as Corine.

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all so this story comes from the police and the proscution very reliable.

The jury and judges have believed what has been said from the begining.



what jurys and judges believe is often not what is the truth.

That is true. But everything the Mitchells say is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Don't ask us to doubt the the jury and the judge, and question everything  they have done, then tell us that the Mitchells have not lied. You cannot possibly know they did not lie as fact. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+Are+you+sure+you+understand+the+importance+of...-a0127135382

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POLICE suspected Luke Mitchell's brother of deliberately giving them false information.

Shane Mitchell, 23, initially told detectives he got home from work about 3.40pm on the day Jodi died.

But he later made a second statement and changed the time he returned home to nearly 5pm.

Shane tells the court he gave a number of statements to police in the weeks following Jodi's death.

Advocate Depute Alan Turnbull QC reads from the statement given on July 3 where Shane tells police he returned home from work at 3.40pm.

Shane says that he cannot remember what he said. He agrees he made a second statement on July 7 but he could not remember exactly how it came about.

He says: 'It is a long time ago and a lot has passed. I believe I wanted to make a second statement because there were errors in my first one.'

In his new statement he gave the time he returned home as 'between 4.55pm and 5pm.'

Shane also agrees with the Advocate Depute that he was questioned by police on April 14 last year, the same day his brother was arrested.

Alan Turnbull QC asks: 'Were you told during the interview that the police suspected you might have deliberately given them false information earlier?'

Shane replies: 'Yes.'
He also tells the court that he thought he was alone in the family home the day Jodi was killed.

The trial has already heard that Luke told police he was at home when Shane got back from work.

Shane says his mother returned home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Alan Turnbull QC reads out a police statement from Luke in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother and Luke both agreed Shane was not in when Luke left the house.


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THE court hears that Mitchell's mother Corinne had been interviewed in connection with attempting to pervert the course of justice during the police investigation but will not face criminal charges.

Alan Turnbull QC asks: 'Are you sure, Mrs Mitchell, that you understand the importance of telling the truth in court?'

'Yes, I do' replies Mrs Mitchell, 45. The witness, who says she does not approve of youngsters carrying knives, admits ordering Mitchell a knife from a catalogue for Christmas 2003. She says he needed it for a camping trip.

Referring to a police interview she gave on April 14 last year - the day Luke was arrested - Mr Turnbull says: 'By the following April you had forgotten about buying it.'

Mrs Mitchell denies lighting a log burner in her back garden the day Jodi died. The jury heard neighbour George Ramage, 37, claim the burner appeared to have been used between 6.30pm and 7.30pm and around 10pm that day.

But Mrs Mitchell says: 'I have no reason to put the burner on.'

She also admits buying her son a parka-style jacket just over a week after Jodi's death.

'Why did Luke need a parka?' Mr Turnbull asks. 'They were in fashion,' she replies.

But the lawyer tells her that several friends, neighbours and teachers had given evidence that her son owned a parka jacket before Jodi's death. Mrs Mitchell says: 'I wasn't aware he had one.'

MITCHELL'S mother Corinne tells the court: 'My son did not kill Jodi Jones.'

But Alan Turnbull QC accuses her of lying in court to protect her son. He says she had 'abandoned all effort at exercising parental control over Luke'.

And he adds that their relationship had 'changed from that of parent and child to that of accomplice'. Mrs Mitchell denies the lawyer's suggestions.

He continues: 'You lied to police by saying Luke was in the house when you got home from work.'

Mrs Mitchell answers: 'Luke was in the house.' The QC adds that she 'knew perfectly well' that items had been burned in their wood burner the day Jodi was killed and that Luke had lied to the police.

She replies: 'He was telling the truth.'

The advocate depute continues: 'You have to tell the truth whether you think it matters or whether you think it relevant.

'Isn't it nearer the truth that you'd be prepared to lie to cover up to protect him?'

Corinne replies: 'No, it's not true. I've not been lying.'


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a lot of people know the truth and there starting to come forward now.

Shane has never been convicted of lying to the police now that's probably because he didn't

nor  as Corine.

How can you possibly know that what you have said is true? Only Corinne and Shane will know for sure.

EDITED to add:  No Shane was not convicted but he was charged with giving false statements.
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all so this story comes from the police and the proscution very reliable.

The jury and judges have believed what has been said from the begining.



what jurys and judges believe is often not what is the truth.

That is true. But everything the Mitchells say is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Don't ask us to doubt the the jury and the judge, and question everything  they have done, then tell us that the Mitchells have not lied. You cannot possibly know they did not lie as fact. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+JODI+JONES+TRIAL%3A+Are+you+sure+you+understand+the+importance+of...-a0127135382

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POLICE suspected Luke Mitchell's brother of deliberately giving them false information.

Shane Mitchell, 23, initially told detectives he got home from work about 3.40pm on the day Jodi died.

But he later made a second statement and changed the time he returned home to nearly 5pm.

Shane tells the court he gave a number of statements to police in the weeks following Jodi's death.

Advocate Depute Alan Turnbull QC reads from the statement given on July 3 where Shane tells police he returned home from work at 3.40pm.

Shane says that he cannot remember what he said. He agrees he made a second statement on July 7 but he could not remember exactly how it came about.

He says: 'It is a long time ago and a lot has passed. I believe I wanted to make a second statement because there were errors in my first one.'

In his new statement he gave the time he returned home as 'between 4.55pm and 5pm.'

Shane also agrees with the Advocate Depute that he was questioned by police on April 14 last year, the same day his brother was arrested.

Alan Turnbull QC asks: 'Were you told during the interview that the police suspected you might have deliberately given them false information earlier?'

Shane replies: 'Yes.'
He also tells the court that he thought he was alone in the family home the day Jodi was killed.

The trial has already heard that Luke told police he was at home when Shane got back from work.

Shane says his mother returned home about 5.15pm and he joined her downstairs.

Alan Turnbull QC reads out a police statement from Luke in which he said he had tea with his mum before leaving the house at about 5.30pm to wait for Jodi.

His mother and Luke both agreed Shane was not in when Luke left the house.


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THE court hears that Mitchell's mother Corinne had been interviewed in connection with attempting to pervert the course of justice during the police investigation but will not face criminal charges.

Alan Turnbull QC asks: 'Are you sure, Mrs Mitchell, that you understand the importance of telling the truth in court?'

'Yes, I do' replies Mrs Mitchell, 45. The witness, who says she does not approve of youngsters carrying knives, admits ordering Mitchell a knife from a catalogue for Christmas 2003. She says he needed it for a camping trip.

Referring to a police interview she gave on April 14 last year - the day Luke was arrested - Mr Turnbull says: 'By the following April you had forgotten about buying it.'

Mrs Mitchell denies lighting a log burner in her back garden the day Jodi died. The jury heard neighbour George Ramage, 37, claim the burner appeared to have been used between 6.30pm and 7.30pm and around 10pm that day.

But Mrs Mitchell says: 'I have no reason to put the burner on.'

She also admits buying her son a parka-style jacket just over a week after Jodi's death.

'Why did Luke need a parka?' Mr Turnbull asks. 'They were in fashion,' she replies.

But the lawyer tells her that several friends, neighbours and teachers had given evidence that her son owned a parka jacket before Jodi's death. Mrs Mitchell says: 'I wasn't aware he had one.'

MITCHELL'S mother Corinne tells the court: 'My son did not kill Jodi Jones.'

But Alan Turnbull QC accuses her of lying in court to protect her son. He says she had 'abandoned all effort at exercising parental control over Luke'.

And he adds that their relationship had 'changed from that of parent and child to that of accomplice'. Mrs Mitchell denies the lawyer's suggestions.

He continues: 'You lied to police by saying Luke was in the house when you got home from work.'

Mrs Mitchell answers: 'Luke was in the house.' The QC adds that she 'knew perfectly well' that items had been burned in their wood burner the day Jodi was killed and that Luke had lied to the police.

She replies: 'He was telling the truth.'

The advocate depute continues: 'You have to tell the truth whether you think it matters or whether you think it relevant.

'Isn't it nearer the truth that you'd be prepared to lie to cover up to protect him?'

Corinne replies: 'No, it's not true. I've not been lying.'

i know people who lie to protect a defendedent are charged.

and i know shane and corine were not.

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a lot of people know the truth and there starting to come forward now.

Shane has never been convicted of lying to the police now that's probably because he didn't

nor  as Corine.

How can you possibly know that what you have said is true? Only Corinne and Shane will know for sure.

EDITED to add:  No Shane was not convicted but he was charged with giving false statements.

yes and all charges were droped funny that isnt it.

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April 14

Luke Mitchell is arrested and charged in connection with Jodi's murder.

His mother Corinne Mitchell, 45, and brother Shane, 22, are also arrested and charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice. Both will later be told at the trial that the charges against them are dropped.


So nugnug they were indeed charged. Regardless of the charges being dropped they did get charged and they were lucky to have them dropped if you ask me.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20050123/ai_n9628503/


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people have charges dropped becouse there is no case against them.


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people have charges dropped becouse there is no case against them.

Sometimes!

The 45-year-old caravan dealer was charged in April last year with attempting to pervert the course of justice, but while the prosecution at the trial focused on convicting Luke, the case against her was dropped. Whether or not new charges will come has not yet been decided.



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yes dropped and in 7 years the police have never thought of bringing new ones is that because they know they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

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Lets be clear about the dropping of the charges relating to perverting the course of justice.  These charges would have only complicated the trial and subsequent appeals process.  As you say Janet, they were lucky not to have been proceeded against.

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yeah right they could of made the conviction stronger if they had managed to convict corine and shane.

the fact is the thought they would not convict them.

and why would they think they would not convict them.

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Giving evidence at the High Court in Edinburgh today, Ms Mitchell was asked questions relating to statements given to police by both herself and Luke.

After answering "I can’t remember" to a number of questions relating to her son, advocate depute Alan Turnbull, QC prosecuting, said to her: "Is it not the truth that you could see no wrong in anything Luke did?"

Ms Mitchell replied: "No, that’s not true."

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Ms Mitchell told the trial that she first learned of Jodi’s death when she got into a police car on June 30, 2003, and that she asked the officer if Luke had been arrested.

Mr Turnbull then asked: "What reason would you have to ask that question?"

Ms Mitchell said: "I don’t remember asking that question."

Mr Turnbull replied: "You don’t want to commit yourself. You want to take refuge in the notion that he can’t remember. But I can tell you that the policeman concerned is in the waiting room ready to give evidence.

"If he tells the court that you asked this question is there any reason to disbelieve him?"

Ms Mitchell replied: "No".

Ms Mitchell told the court that she still maintained that she knew her son well.

Mr Turnbull then reminded her how she had previously told the court she was shocked to learn her son smoked cannabis, carried a knife on a daily basis and took cannabis to school.

He asked her: "Are you beginning to have second thoughts then about knowing your son well?"

"No," she replied.

In a statement given to a police doctor after being checked for injuries following Jodi’s death, Mitchell said his mother had "a quick temper". He said that he also had a quick temper and that he got this from his mother.

"Would this be accurate?" Mr Turnbull asked Ms Mitchell.

"Did Luke have a temper?"

She replied: "No more than most people." She then also agreed that Luke had described himself as having a quick temper with a short fuse.
http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/No-Jodi-coverup-says-Mitchell.2594892.jp

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John

been looking up this Scott Forbes. Is he the same Scott Forbes that works with mojo now?