The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[guest154]

why would they lie you cant lie somebody out of prison.

I'm just wondering why you said 'we'?

[nugnug]

by we i meant me sandra and other posters on this i would of thought that was obvious.

[guest154]

by we i meant me sandra and other posters on this i would of thought that was obvious.

I figured that you meant Sandra and yourself, I just didn't realise that you were involved in the whole process.

[nugnug]

im not involved in the whole processes  the appeals and the official stuff im not involved in i just post on forums.

[sandra L]

Mat said

I beleive the LM case to be crucial for you, Sandra. After the AP case I don't tihnk that you can afford another MOJ that turns out to be actually guilty so I respect that you're going to great means to prove LM's innocence, I just don't agree with your opinion

Every case I'm involved in is "crucial" to me, in the sense that, if an innocent person is in prison for a crime they didn't commit, then the real perpetrator is out here walking amongst us. I don't need or want the approval of anyone else for what I do  I do it because, for me, it's the right thing to do.

Adrian Prout turned out to be guilty but the evidence on which he was convicted was not sufficient to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he had killed Kate. Without the lie detector test, he would, almost certainly, never have been found out.

I have stated before, and will state again, I would rather take the chance of occasionally getting it wrong, than sit back and do nothing while our justice system obtains more and more questionable convictions.

Regarding nugnug, the use of "we" refers to posters/supporters of Luke's innocence, nothing more. I have never worked with nugnug on any case, or in any other situation - he is a long time poster on Luke's forum, as well as others, but I have never met him, and do not know him personally. I am, however, pleased to have him on board as a supporter - he has been a valuable contributor to our many debates and dicussions.

Thanks to FreeSimonHall for posting the forthone link.

[OnceSaid]

Well done to Terry Mullins, but it is scandalous that his expert opinion is being questioned by some, and that because Luke closed his eyes throughout the test that he has been accused by some of cheating the polygraph.  Is this the best that people can come up with?  Had he been instructed to keep his eyes open no doubt there would have been something said about that too.  He can't win with some people but what they seem to forget whilst bitching about his eyes being open is that there was no evidence linking him to the murder of Jodi and he is using any means possible to back this up to help prove his innocence, and why shouldnt he?. 

Whilst the papers are running with stories about whether the video should be on youtube or not, and online forums discuss the reliability of lie detectors, people seem to be forgetting that there were no witnesses nor forensic evidence to link him in anyway to this murder.

I can't help but feel that people who are criticising him feel that he and others who are protesting their innocence should just do their time and make no effort to prove their innocence, incase it rocks the boat, or offends someone.  Of course it would be a much different story if it was one of their own.

[OnceSaid]

Updates can be found here http://forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/series-on-cases-from-sandra-leans-book-no-smoke/luke-mitchell-wrongly-convicted-of-murder/13845/

[nugnug]

thanks oncesaid.

[sandra L]

Oncesaid said

I can't help but feel that people who are criticising him feel that he and others who are protesting their innocence should just do their time and make no effort to prove their innocence, incase it rocks the boat, or offends someone.  Of course it would be a much different story if it was one of their own.

I've said to so many people - either critics, or those who think I'm mad and should just "walk away and get on with my own life" - what would YOU want ME to do if this was your son?

The most common answer is, "But it's not my son, is it? My son would never be in that position."

So many people just can't seem to grasp how easily wrongful convictions are obtained. I agree, also, with Oncesaid, that there's this perception of people protesting their innocence "offending" people - why on earth should that be so? If there are outstanding questions about any case, then surely it is in everyone's interests that the case be properly reviewed? Or are these people happy to take the risk that the real perpetrator is still walking free amongst us, rather than face the unpalatable fact that our justice system sometimes gets it wrong?

[nugnug]

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1783648

[nugnug]

facebook group.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/You-ARE-LUKE-Mitchell/286160341427261

[OnceSaid]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21060864

[nugnug]

see the rent a gob politicians are at it again.

[nugnug]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-21060845

[Suzie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-21060845

He didn't answer the question did he. Chicken.