Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 730311 times)

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there is no forensic evedence linking him to the linking luke but plenty of forensic evedence linking other people to it.

do you man the condom that was found 50 yards away? That could have been anyone's that used that area for sex....it does not mean that person killed Jodi????

not just the condom there was sperm and blood found one her clothes that didn't belong to luke.

So who's DNA was that nugnug?

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the there are many dna sampels there 2 seprate lots of sperm one of the sperm donners also managed to leave some of there blood there.

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The person who left the condom was traced, weather his excuse true or false, the condom definitely wasn't involved in the murder.


It wasn't just the porn, there was a number of inconsistencies that lead me to believe Luke wasn't at home.

At a time when Luke was supposed to be at home burning a chicken pie that he served to his brother and mum, his brother was upstairs viewing porn, and has no recollection of Luke making his dinner that night, or even hearing or seeing him atall. (that is until mum had a word in his ear, and he soon changed his statement)

At a time when Luke was supposed to be at home, he's making calls from his pay and go mobile, instead of using the landline, his mobile records show he was phoning the premium rate "speaking clock", what teenager would waste afew quid of his mobile credit when his house would no doubt have numerous sources of time?


His brother doesn't hear Luke making these calls.  ::)

had the home not got a clock? Why would he do that, surely television, microwave, clocks in the home, computers would have given him the time......did he offer an explanation as to why he phoned the speaking clock?

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the there are many dna sampels there 2 seprate lots of sperm one of the sperm donners also managed to leave some of there blood there.

Sound odd that there were two separate DNA samples taken from her clothing....we must remember that DNA does not identify blood.....Have they traced the DNA nugnug?

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I plan to make a post highlighting all the various genuine reasons I believe Luke is guilty, as I fear I'm just coming off as a troll on here. I will post it soon. I am not some mindless sheep who just backs every conviction, I am open minded and don't come to any decision without investigating it, but I have heard nothing from his support that would make me believe differently when weighing it up against my various reasons. There was 20 pages of 'various reasons' it was Luke, weather L&B botched the investigation or not.

Please do Litium, I would be interested in listening to both sides....I respect alternative points of view, it helps to build up a conclusion.... :)

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One of the things nug is talking about is sperm on Jodi's shirt. This was investigated by L&B and deemed irrelevant when they discovered Jodi was actually wearing her sisters shirt, the girlfriend of who's sperm it was. The same sister who was the sperm-donor's alibi. Would you protect your kid sisters murderer?

So had the shirt been washed, prior to Jodi wearing it? was that investigated? How old was her sister...Sorry for all the questions. :)

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One of the things nug is talking about is sperm on Jodi's shirt. This was investigated by L&B and deemed irrelevant when they discovered Jodi was actually wearing her sisters shirt, the girlfriend of who's sperm it was. The same sister who was the sperm-donor's alibi. Would you protect your kid sisters murderer?




funny she made no mention of t shirt being hers till her boyfriends sperm was found on it.

and his sperm isn't the only sperm there.

there also sperm found in her trainer belonging to someone else.

that dident transfer from the t shirt.

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It was minor traces of sperm which tells me iit has to have been some sort of innocent transfer such as contact from dirty washing or dirty hands. If he ejaculated there and then at the scene, there would be a far more substantial amount of sperm, obviously.

and did his blood innocently transfer as well.

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One of the things nug is talking about is sperm on Jodi's shirt. This was investigated by L&B and deemed irrelevant when they discovered Jodi was actually wearing her sisters shirt, the girlfriend of who's sperm it was. The same sister who was the sperm-donor's alibi. Would you protect your kid sisters murderer?




funny she made no mention of t shirt being hers till her boyfriends sperm was found on it.



Her sister had just been murdered in the most brutal way. I can forgive her for not concentrating on things such as the t-shirt. Janine isn't allowed to forget a shirt, but it's alright when Shane completely forgets seeing and hearing a human being serve him dinner?


Besides, she would have no reason to mention the shirt was hers until the sperm was found on it. Sisters share clothes all the time, this wouldn't be relevant until the sperm discovery. Quickly explained. End of.

its just rather funny she only remembered this when being told her boyfriends sperm was on it then she  i find the timeing rather funny.

they dident live in the same house so how would jodi of had a chance to take one of her t shirts without her knowing it.

wouldent jodi have washed this t shirt before she put it on the t shirt smelled of washing powder when it was found
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So was Kelly ejaculating at the murder scene or was he bleeding? the 2 would contradict each other. And Kelly was involved in the search party, ask Luke if he noticed any fresh xxxxx on Kelly's face that night. As for Falconer, you're forgetting I've seen most of your 'theories' you shared in private messages, none of you even believe he had any part in it, so why drag a mans name through the mud? I personally don't care what he was doing in the woods with the condom.

(take all the legal action you want about the PMs by the way, I welcome it, this isn't my first rodeo and I have all the proof at the ready that I broke no laws if it were to come to it, and I seem to remember gordo requesting I posted one of them)

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the fact is hes blood is there how it got is a matter of opinion but its a fact it is there.

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It was minor traces of sperm which tells me iit has to have been some sort of innocent transfer such as contact from dirty washing or dirty hands. If he ejaculated there and then at the scene, there would be a far more substantial amount of sperm, obviously.

and did his blood innocently transfer as well.


Must have done. He certainly wasn't bleeding on the day or night of the muder so it must have been from a previous time if it was there. He was involved in the search party, ask Luke if he was bleedng.

Explain how he could be ejaculating and bleeding at the same time, was he raping Jodi (although there was no sign of sexual attack) or was he bleeding from a violent struggle???

All your "evidence" contradicts each other, much like when you accuse various people. Rules each other out. Can't have it all ways. All these far fetched theories but you won't consider it might have been Jodi's drug dealing, knife carrying boyfriend who she went out to meet that afternoon? Why not?


a mans sperm and blood on a dead body is hardly a far fetched theory.

how could of cleaned his own dna of and left other peoples on there.

i wont consider it because i believe its impossible.

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Who said he cleaned any of his own DNA off? the fact his DNA wasn't on Jodi, even though they were in contact at school that day, but Kelly's dna was present, only proves more that the source of the DNA must have been the shirt she chaned into before going to meet Luke! simple!

well im going to post the dna report in a minute its already up here but ill post it again.

so your saying absence of dna means your guilty but its presence means your innocent.


luke was forensically examined that night his hair fingernails were dirty meaning he hadn't cleaned himself up.


so if hes a killer how does he get rid of all traces of  jodi without even having a wash.


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well bed time night lithum.