Lithium said (regarding blood/DNA)
... there are no reliable sources reporting blood. You know that.
I posted the Guardian article, and, in particular, this:
The reports also show, the new defence team says, that a blood sample found on her produced a full DNA match with a named individual and a second full DNA profile, for an unknown male, was retrieved from a condom found near the body.
Lithium at first ignored this direct proof that his previous quote was mistaken, posting, instead,
was it the same convo where it was established that the person in questions footprints weren't those found at the scene and it couldn't be him unless he was having a tommy tank up a tree?
Herein lies a problem – according to the official records, NO footprints/bootprints/shoeprints were properly recovered from the scene. A number of prints were noted, but casts were not taken of all of them, and none of them was ever identified. That is NONE.
Also, Lithium has changed the person at the centre of the discussion – the person whose DNA was found in the mixed DNA blood sample is Steven Kelly, Jodi’s sister’s boyfriend. The condom, belonging to the person having what Lithium amusingly refers to as a “tommy tank” was directly linked by a full DNA profile, to James Falconer. All of this information is in the public domain.
James Falconer’s footwear was never checked against what footprints there were, as he wasn’t found until three years later, and couldn’t remember what he was wearing on the night of the murder, three years earlier. Steven Kelly’s footwear was taken for “elimination” purposes because... he was walking about the murder scene at the time the body was found, because he was one of the three searchers who went over the wall that night. There has never been any suggestion that Kelly was masturbating outside that evening (or any other time, to my knowledge) - Lithium is clearly confusing the different individuals in this case.
Lithium then comes back, in response to the blood/DNA quote from the Guardian with this
2 different people then, which one was it? plus the condom had nothing to do with the murder and you know it
no female dna on it, and reports from yourself that he'd have to have "walked over jodi's body" to leave the condom there aren't very honest.
Two different people – yes, agreed – one whose full DNA profile was extracted from a mixed profile in blood, one whose DNA was found in a discarded condom nearby – they are not the same person. I don’t understand the question “Which one was it?”
We have no idea of the condom had anything to do with the murder – it wasn’t investigated properly. Reports that he’d have to have “walked over Jodi’s body” not being honest? Sorry, but that was the information James Falconer gave in his statements to the police three years later – he walked, by his own admission, a specified distanced behind the wall, which would, had his estimate of that distance been accurate, have taken him past the body. Also, please don’t misquote me – I have only ever said that he would have to have stepped over the body – twice – once on the way down, the other on the way back.
Lithium’s last post requires some careful attention to detail.
It's reporting like this that I have an issue with.
Me too, considering what Lithium comes away with next:
Jodi's body in a 6ft x 4ft space at the very most, in a wooded area behind a wall.
What? You asked nugnug earlier for a source for his post – may we please have a source for this outlandish claim?
You're saying JaF couldn't have walked to the spot where the condom was found from his house without stepping over that exact area where the body was laying? That's just stupid.
Nope, never said any such thing. Once behind the wall, from the big gap at the Easthouses end, if Falconer had walked the distance and direction he told police three years later he did, he could not have missed Jodi’s body – he would have to have passed it, and that’s giving the absolute benefit of the doubt. Because of the description he gave of the pathway he took, then his own statement means he would, almost literally, have had to step over the body. It’s not rocket science – this is what Falconer, himself, told police.
I’m suspecting you’ve either never been behind the wall, and seen the lay of the land – a 6ft x 4ft space is utterly ludicrous, as anyone who has been over that wall will tell you. Falconer walked along Lady Path before even getting to Roan’s Dyke path – no-one, even Falconer himself, is including this in the distance he walked that night
Just because Luke found the body and identified it so quickly in the darkness, doesn't mean it was so visable for anyone else in the area.
Really? So why did AW, SK, Luke, and a minimum of 4 police officers all describe being able to see a similar thing, in the woodland, sometime around 11.30pm that evening, when it was dark? According to Falconer, he’d been there much earlier in the evening – while it was still daylight.
