The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[gordo30]

Alot of the 'evidence' that he's innocent has been greatly exagerated by the members on Luke's forum.

It would be great to see examples of this.

[Buddy]

her sister was 17 at the time jodi was 14.

So I assume more developed. Sisters tend to squabble with each other. Perhaps the boyfriend was showing an unheathy interest in Jodi!
Did Jodi's sister supply the alibi for her boy friend?
I am still interested if the sister, and boyfriend are still together.
The shit could still hit the fan!

[guest154]

So I assume more developed. Sisters tend to squabble with each other. Perhaps the boyfriend was showing an unheathy interest in Jodi!
Did Jodi's sister supply the alibi for her boy friend?
I am still interested if the sister, and boyfriend are still together.
The shit could still hit the fan!

Buddy, that's all very baseless and so speculative. 

[Buddy]

I believe Jodi and her sister were as close as any 2 sisters are, and didn't have any problems. Jodi was probably similar size to her older sister as she was quite tall for her age, you probably noticed nugnug mention she was taller than Luke, like this would somehow make her strong enough to fight him off if he were to attack her unexpectedly with a knife. Kelly and Jodi's sister never married and both went their seperate ways. Jodi's sister was a lesbian last I heard. Not that that matters, might not even be true. I'm the opposite, I think Luke probably is guilty. I do agree the investigation was a shambles but it doesn't mean Luke isn't guilty anyway, and none of the arguments from his supporters convince me enough to change my mind.  And I'm obviously not alone, this is a stance I share with every respected judge who rejected all of his appeals, yet people call me a trouble maker on here for maintaining this opinion? Jodi's brother, her sisters boyfriend, her 2 cousins, are just some of the people they accuse and post 'evidence' against, and I find the circumstancial evidence against Luke to be more damning than any of the above. I accept he could be innocent though it's just not my opinion. Just like none of his supporters in here actually know for a fact that he's innocent. Alot of the 'evidence' that he's innocent has been greatly exagerated by the members on Luke's forum. Maybe not even deliberately, just that it's been mentioned so much over a long period of time. In reality most of it is so weak that Donald Findlay didn't even think it was worth mentioning as it could be so easily picked apart.

I don't think you are a trouble maker, but are too rigid with your views.

[nugnug]

Well to name afew off the top of my head, Corinne posted she had "groundbreaking news" about Kelly's past. Nothing ever came of it. Jodi's brothers 'serious mental illness!' is greatly exaggerated also. Apparently he has a 'very violent history', but actually has no criminal record. And again there is the DNA that doesn't actually point anywhere. Oh and Ferris being "ostracized" by the family and chased out of the area. When really his mother just moved in with a new partner in Ayrshire.

jodis brother pleaded guilty to threatening to kill Sandra lean outside her own home so yes he has got a record.

ferris admitted none of them were talking to ferris at the trial.

[guest154]

jodis brother pleaded guilty to threatening to kill Sandra lean outside her own home so yes he has got a record.

His sister was visciously murdered, you can understand him being ANGRY at the people trying to get her murderer out of jail.

[nugnug]

Joe Jones is by all accounts a normal guy, a far cry from the derranged psycho and loose cannon he's been painted as on that forum. He is engaged and has a job which he wouldn't be allowed to have if he had a notable criminal record or mental illness. He delivers medication for pharmaceutical companies.

you keep makeing these pruduce nothing to back thjem up where is your evedence for any of this.

the brother has been sectioned sevral ok they does not make him abnormal

or necasrely violent.

i suspect you are just makeing all this up as you go along..

[gordo30]

It pretty obvious your closer to the family/area than you make out. It seems you know a lot about Joe so tell me all about the drugs he was involved with mainly canabis at the time?

[guest154]

you keep makeing these pruduce nothing to back thjem up where is your evedence for any of this.

the brother has been sectioned sevral ok they does not make him abnormal

or necasrely violent.

i suspect you are just makeing all this up as you go along..

Proof that the brother has been sectioned? Are we really now sinking to the depths to sling mud at someone who's sister was murdered? 

[nugnug]

His sister was visciously murdered, you can understand him being ANGRY at the people trying to get her murderer out of jail.

yes but proves lithum was lying.

threating to kill a woman outside her own home is not something i find understandable.

[Buddy]

Buddy, that's all very baseless and so speculative. 

No Mat just an assumption. Wrongly or rightly.
I consider mysellf the same as you Mat. On a learning curve, but find some things do not quite add up.
No offence to anyone, just asking questions. [perhaps poorly]

[guest154]

I think somethnig to keep in mind is that Sandra L is a relentless woman - and the fact that she's so public with her 'findings' that often prove to be nothing (this may be more trun in the case of LM's mother)> she puts the families of the murder victim through a lot of hell and pain.

So the families are in their rights to HATE Sandra Lean and have STRONG emotions for her - that makes sense to me.

If someone killed my sister and was convicted  - then this Sandra Lean woman was in the press sprouting what I believed to be lies in order to get the killer out of jail.........God, she'd be my enemy.

[guest154]

That's nothing, her brother is the 'favourite' out of all the suspects on Luke's forum. They have no problem slinging mud at the family in every way possible. Right now the buzzing topic is weather or not the Jones family's calls to the police and times add up. How exciting, a true testament to how much evidence they really have to work with. Or maybe they really do have an easier time believing the brother killed Jodi then orchastrated a search so they could lead Luke to the body and frame him, instead of considering simply that boy she went to meet, the same boy who was known to carry knives, may actually have killed her.

Which one seems more likely to you? Most normal functioning members of society would agree the latter.

Exactly. (We really shouldn't agree so much, Chelsea will have a field day).
I don't read the forum though but I wouldn't be suprised if the forum slings mud at everyone APART from the actual person who has been convicted on quite solid evidence.

[nugnug]

I think somethnig to keep in mind is that Sandra L is a relentless woman - and the fact that she's so public with her 'findings' that often prove to be nothing (this may be more trun in the case of LM's mother)> she puts the families of the murder victim through a lot of hell and pain.

So the families are in their rights to HATE Sandra Lean and have STRONG emotions for her - that makes sense to me.

If someone killed my sister and was convicted  - then this Sandra Lean woman was in the press sprouting what I believed to be lies in order to get the killer out of jail.........God, she'd be my enemy.

oh so that justifys and threating to kill her does it.

weather its justified or not it is not exactly the actions of a peacefull man.

[guest154]

I'm sure he isn't a peaceful man. It must be hard to ever find true peace again after what he's been through. Lashing out at someone who was trying to get his sisters killer out of prison doesn't seem to me like the actions of someone guilty of the actual murder.