Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1055547 times)

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Offline nugnug

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read the link i have just posted scroll down to the bottom.

where it says the role of the dog.
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Chelsea

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What will you do with your doctorate Sandra ? Your still young and now have so many opportunities available to you.

Offline sandra L

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sorry, cross posted.

The dog's training records were taken by the police, and examined by dog handling experts who agreed that the dog had had some formal tracker training, although she was not fully trained.

People have asked why it was, then, that the dog did not react on the way up the path, when Luke was alone, but did so on the way back down, when the family members who met up with Luke insisted on "double checking."

Luke was 14 years old, he was on a dark, secluded path, his girlfriend was missing, he had told her mum he would check the path and, if he didn't meet Jodi en route, he would make his way to the mother's house. He said at the time, he just wanted to get up the path as quickly as possible - 14 year old boys generally don't willingly admit to being scared, but he said Mia the dog waas very excitable on the way up the path, and he just pulled her in, to keep her moving forward.

On the way back down, in the safety of numbers, he put her into "tracking mode" which he had not done on the way up, so he was actively looking for an "alert" or signal from her - on the way up, he had only been checking the path - on the way back down, he knew Jodi was not on the path, but if she had been in the field or the woods, the dog may have scented her. At 14, alone in the darkness, he was unlikely to go checking in the woods or the fields on his own - the arrangement had been clear - check the path, then up to the mother's house if he didn't meet up with Jodi. it was a catch 22 situation for Lue - he knew Jodi's mother was waiting for him to come up the path - if he'd gone off searching about in woods and fields, her mother would have been frantic that he was taking so long. Anyway, he has said many times since that he wasn't looking anywhere but the path, because he was afraid - if anything bad had happened to Jodi, he didn't want to be on his own.

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Hmm, to many user names here. I can't get it out of my head that lithium, and Mat are the same person, and are both john.
The fact that no dna links Luke to the crime makes it unreliable, coupled with the fact that the boyfriends dna was discovered at the scene makes me wonder more.. All this transfer of sperm/semen is going over my head.
I wonder if Luke was known to the police, and wanted him out of the way for a time.
I admit it is a bit fishy him finding the body of Jodi with his dog sounds a little convenient.
You know Buddy that was the very thing I posted and was immediately accused of attacking Mat, when my post was to Lithium. Shameful. But you can confirm that is a logical concern?

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What will you do with your doctorate Sandra ? Your still young and now have so many opportunities available to you.

I don't know yet, Chelsea - I'm not that young any more - 50 next year   ;D - but my daughter is going off to uni next week, so my options are wide open. It's all still very new to me, and I needed some time out to just get used to the idea that I actually did it, and then decide what's next.

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sandra L  very well done :)

Offline grahameb

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Yes, well done Doctor Lean. :)

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I find you inspirational as you went off and done something because you believed in something.  50 is not old anymore, its the new 40. I can see you like Clarice Starling in The Silence of the Lambs getting into Hannibal's mind to rescue the victim.

Offline sandra L

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Thanks susan, and grahame,  but I couldn't have done it without all the people who trusted me enough to tell me their stories, their experiences, and their heartbreak. These people were facing huge obstacles, but took the time out to talk with me, to allow me to carry out my research, and I will always be eternally grateful, and extremely humbled, by their kindness.

Offline sandra L

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I find you inspirational as you went off and done something because you believed in something.  50 is not old anymore, its the new 40. I can see you like Clarice Starling in The Silence of the Lambs getting into Hannibal's mind to rescue the victim.

When my dad died, I was just 26, and didn't know at the time I was pregnant with my first daughter. The death was very sudden, and made me realise that there is only now - my dad was waiting until he retired to go to all these places he'd never seen - he was 56 when he died, 9 years short of retirement. Since then, if I've really wanted to do something, I've gone ahead and done it. Some people think it's irresponsible, but we only have one life, we can't have it back to live over (or differently), and we may not even have tomorrow, so if the chance comes up today - grab it, is my philosophy.

Not sure about the Clarice Starling thing, though ... too scary!

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I find you inspirational as you went off and done something because you believed in something.  50 is not old anymore, its the new 40. I can see you like Clarice Starling in The Silence of the Lambs getting into Hannibal's mind to rescue the victim.
Does that mean I'm really only 50? :) Wow! if only I felt that young. ::)

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I get what your saying Sandra. Live today as tomorrow may never come. Sorry about your Dad, 56 is well young.

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I find you inspirational as you went off and done something because you believed in something.  50 is not old anymore, its the new 40. I can see you like Clarice Starling in The Silence of the Lambs getting into Hannibal's mind to rescue the victim.
Chelsea, I do agree with you apart from one fact.  I have it on good authority (mine) that 50 is the new 30........no argument 8) 8)   

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Maggie when I get to fifty it will be the new 20 !!!

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Maggie when I get to fifty it will be the new 20 !!!
Too right Chelsea...you go girl! :)