The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[nugnug]

even if was it does not have to be at the scene.

[guest154]

so how do to dead sperm get from the front of t shirt to the back of a bra  .

Very easily. 

[nugnug]

You just said the shirt would have to have been clean or else Jodi would never have put it on before she left home. So she left home, went and had sex with Kelly on the way to her boyfriends?

Kelly is completely innocent in my opinion.

i do not think a girl that age would put on a t shirt that was anything other than clean.

he may well be time time will tell.

as i said im not going to speculate how about he manged to get it on there.

its fact it is on there and i do not believe the official explanation

[guest154]

I think a girl her age is more likely than someone older to pull on a t-shirt that hasn't been washed. Teenagers...

[nugnug]

I think a girl her age is more likely than someone older to pull on a t-shirt that hasn't been washed. Teenagers...

if the t shirt hadent been washed it would of also smelt of sperm would any teenage girl put a smelly t shirt on.

[guest154]

Not true at all. We're not talking a t-shirt covered in sperm. We're talking traces.

[guest154]

Neither, nugnug is a sniffer dog. 

[nugnug]

You're telling me tiny traces of sperm would cause a shirt to smell? Semen itself barely has a scent. Are you male or female?

it would smell enough for you not to want to wear if you had a clean one at hand.

i would thik that you wouldent borrow a t shirt from a relative and then put it on before washing it.

now im assumeing jodi had clean t shits to wear why would she pit on the unwashed one did she like it so much she had to wear it that day.

[nugnug]

well for start as i said before the body was left uncovered for hours in the rain the maning whe dont how much of evything was on there in the first place.

we dont know much sperm or blood was there in the first place.

[nugnug]

Jodi's sisters shirt had small traces of her boyfriends DNA on it, even if it was Jodi's shirt, having DNA traces of someone who spends alot of time in your household with your family wouldn't be out of the ordinary. You don't know how hygienic Kelly was, he could have arrived at the home with dirty hands or clothes himself, you don't know if he ever helped his girlfriend with chores such as folding or sorting freshly washed clothes. S.Kelly's DNA being innocent is far more likely than the other suggestions.

he would have to be very unheginic the family must have of been more tolernt than me i wouldent let somone that unhginic in my house.

and im suprised somone with such personall habitts would get a job working in a bar.

im supprised they would have a girlfriend.

[nugnug]

You're treating S.Kelly and every other male in the area or with ties to the Jones family the very same way you complain about how Luke was treated before his trial. I just hope no future imployers google the poor guys name if he's ever looking for a new job.

well what you have said about him wouldn't do him a power of good ether.

[guest154]

Nugnug, when you asked me previously about the DNA evidence - is that the DNA evidence you meant?

[nugnug]

And again you seem to think Kelly having tiny traces of semen on his clothing would be visible to his girlfriends family or even detectable by scent. Wow.

if he was as unhygienic as you are claiming then yes.

but working in a bar he couldent have been you have to wash your hands a fair few times.

[Chelsea]

Your language is a disgrace

[guest154]

Your language is a disgrace

Who's?