Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1055629 times)

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Offline gordo30

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Yeah.....of course I am................absolutely.............  ::)

I mentioned this because I have a strong fasination on the black dhalia murder also, Im a member of a forum dedicated to it and I spend a lot of time there so you see Im trying to impart a sense of reality about what you have stated in a previous post about Lukes obsession about other knife crimes, basicly a lot of crap.

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well if you look at the injuries you can see this murder is nothing like the black dahiala killing.

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i dont think that was directed at you buddy.
Thank god fot that.
I don't think that mitchel is guilty. DNA points me in another direction.
I think the fact that his brother was galloping his maggot at the time was enough to deny that he had seen Luke.
The fact that there was no DNA sets alarm bells ringing.
There really is not a lot to link Luke to this murder.




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Thank god fot that.
I don't think that mitchel is guilty. DNA points me in another direction.
I think the fact that his brother was galloping his maggot at the time was enough to deny that he had seen Luke.
The fact that there was no DNA sets alarm bells ringing.
There really is not a lot to link Luke to this murder.

yes but plenty of dna to implicate others.

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The more I read..


"youth matching Mitchell's description was seen by two passers-by in a car at this gate a few minutes after Jodi's murder.  Mrs Walsh and Mrs Fleming were most insistent that the youth they had seen that day was indeed Mitchell.

They identified Mitchell in court as being this person.

One has to ask the question, how many other lads with shoulder-length hair wearing a green Bomber jacket with orange lining were out on this part of Newbattle road at 5.40pm that afternoon."





How many people claimed to have seen Tia Sharp following her disappearance?  I think it ran into dozens!  My point is, as we all know, eyewitness evidence is notoriously unreliable.

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I don't think you can compare the two.  None of those witnesses ever testified in court so you don't know how sure they were that they had seen Tia or if they'd be willing to stand up in court - no idea what they told the police.

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craig dobbie the detective in charge of the case stated clearly there was no postive id.

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I do have concerns about how the Police sometimes collect their evidence.  I suppose it's human nature but they get a hunch and then investigate accordingly.  They then neglect to fully investigate all other lines of enquiry.  I think that there are signs that they did exactly this in Lukes case and quite blatantly so in Simon Halls.

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Was the verdict a unanimous one or by majority?

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majority and in scotland it only takes a simple majority to convict

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It is strange that the police put more emphasis on the Bryson sighting and used it as a central point to the whole case,then again she quite eloquently stated that the boy they had in court was not the one she had seen.
Its  is terrible to think that not all people could be that honest, then again they never wanted to be in the position where they had to somehow corroborate their stories infront of a jury. I must admit it fails me to think why anyone who had seen something possibly as vital to such  a terrible crime would not want to come forward to begin with.

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well she dident say it wasnt him she stated she dident know so therefore it is not a postive id.

and flemming and walsh desecribed someone with shoulder lentgh hair any who takss a look at luke can see he did not have shoulder lenth hair at the time.