The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[nugnug]

It looked enough like Luke to convince a jury. It also looked enough like Luke for Sandra Lean to put forward a suspect because he looks just like Luke so this could have been who the two saw in the area and believed that it was Luke. 

yes a jury convicted him well but that nobody can be a moj victem.

[guest154]

yes so if you live in the area you are going to be in the area arnt you.

So it was him then?  Or it wasn't?
Do you base your beliefs from the court documents/witness statements. Or from the offical website?

[gordo30]

I must admit mat that even I don't believe that you feel that on the evidence of F&W that some members of the jury(not all) convicted Luke. I have been reading this forum for a while now and I have seen many posts by you that I would describe as concise,articulate and of the utmost import but there has to be a different agenda here today for some reason. I don't feel your being to straight with your proffered views on this case, more so when its obvious that you know little of the case.

The added information about a look alike is not to suggest or highlight to those on the commision that someone was the killer but simply to show the commision the failings of the authorities in this case for not allowing or attempting to interview someone who was not only on their radar but part of those in the vacinity that should have been interviewed.

[nugnug]

So it was him then?  Or it wasn't?
Do you base your beliefs from the court documents/witness statements. Or from the offical website?

i said nothing of the sort pointed out a fact.

it based on all of those things.

[guest154]

I must admit mat that even I don't believe that you feel that on the evidence of F&W that some members of the jury(not all) convicted Luke. I have been reading this forum for a while now and I have seen many posts by you that I would describe as concise,articulate and of the utmost import but there has to be a different agenda here today for some reason. I don't feel your being to straight with your proffered views on this case, more so when its obvious that you know little of the case.

The added information about a look alike is not to suggest or highlight to those on the commision that someone was the killer but simply to show the commision the failings of the authorities in this case for not allowing or attempting to interview someone who was not only on their radar but part of those in the vacinity that should have been interviewed.

Of course I'm being straight with my views on the case and I have no agenda. The Luke Mitchell case has never been within a hundred miles of my offices. It's completely out of our jurisdication. I've no dog in the race - I speak about it as a outsider completely.

But, Gordo30. Is it possible to get an answer as to why the website doesn't mention the inscription?

i said nothing of the sort pointed out a fact.

it based on all of those things.

Okay, Nugnug. In which case (if you truly base your opinions/arguments on the court transcripts and interviews) can you point me in the direction as to where you claim you've read them. Or at least tell me where you accessed them. 

[nugnug]

i dont have to explain anything tou.

who do you think you are exactly people dont have to explian themselves becouse they dont agrea with you.

[guest154]

i dont have to explain anything tou.

Thought so. Just thought I'd check. 

[Neil]

One of the most worrying things about this case was the conduct of the police.  From an early stage it seems that they had made their minds up about who was responsible and collected the evidence accordingly.  This is demonstrated by their despicable questioning of Luke, which incidentally was condemned at appeal. 

[guest154]

I don't agree with some of the questioning the police did, and the fact that they used that small loop hole to make sure he was 16 by the time they moved forward (although legal) is.. interesting. Doesn't change my opinion though, I think the police knew from quite early on they were looking at the right killer.

[gordo30]

But, Gordo30. Is it possible to get an answer as to why the website doesn't mention the inscription?

I didn't realise the official site had not mentioned the inscription, infact Im am sure it was discussed many times before and as the forum is an integral part of the main site, it is here you should maybe direct your attentions,time and energy if indeed you are willing to atleast argue your view point with some form of semblance to the real case.

It is for me more a point of interpretation in relation to the inscriptions you mention as on the one hand having the mass hysteria,intrusion and lies accorded to the Mitchell case from the media the pouch and inscription can and will look rather sinister. It could also be interpreted as a form of endearment as I have witnessed on many occasions on other forums when someone has passed away. RIP written on anything that is not associated to the crime cannot and should not be manipulated to simply fit somerones agenda.

[guest154]

I didn't realise the official site had not mentioned the inscription, infact Im am sure it was discussed many times before and as the forum is an integral part of the main site, it is here you should maybe direct your attentions,time and energy if indeed you are willing to atleast argue your view point with some form of semblance to the real case.

It is for me more a point of interpretation in relation to the inscriptions you mention as on the one hand having the mass hysteria,intrusion and lies accorded to the Mitchell case from the media the pouch and inscription can and will look rather sinister. It could also be interpreted as a form of endearment as I have witnessed on many occasions on other forums when someone has passed away. RIP written on anything that is not associated to the crime cannot and should not be manipulated to simply fit somerones agenda.

Thanks for the answer. I just wondered why trivial things like the Sky news comments made by the mother were mentioned on the site and not something like the inscription.

[nugnug]

probebly becouse they dident think it was relvant


as i dont well not campared to the dna evedence implicating othere people.

wat do you think of the dna evedence mat.

[guest154]

The more I read..


"youth matching Mitchell's description was seen by two passers-by in a car at this gate a few minutes after Jodi's murder.  Mrs Walsh and Mrs Fleming were most insistent that the youth they had seen that day was indeed Mitchell.

They identified Mitchell in court as being this person.

One has to ask the question, how many other lads with shoulder-length hair wearing a green Bomber jacket with orange lining were out on this part of Newbattle road at 5.40pm that afternoon."

[gordo30]

Thanks for the answer. I just wondered why trivial things like the Sky news comments made by the mother were mentioned on the site and not something like the inscription

Is it possible to enlighten me to the particular comments your mean and your reason for feeling that these should or should not be relevent to the main site as oppessed to other aspects of the case you feel are more important.

When I think of it the Sky news issue you seem to consider trivial turned out to be anything but, however you seem to feel it shouldn't be on there?

[nugnug]

The more I read..


"youth matching Mitchell's description was seen by two passers-by in a car at this gate a few minutes after Jodi's murder.  Mrs Walsh and Mrs Fleming were most insistent that the youth they had seen that day was indeed Mitchell.

They identified Mitchell in court as being this person.

One has to ask the question, how many other lads with shoulder-length hair wearing a green Bomber jacket with orange lining were out on this part of Newbattle road at 5.40pm that afternoon."

were did you get that from could you post the link please.