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Offline wilf

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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2014, 07:01:PM »
Maybe it was the opium poppies that were the attraction. They were worth money if grown for the pharmas in the manufacture of medicines,etc.
There were a few notorious drug gangs around at that time too.
I dont think it is or was illegal to grow opium in this country ( not really hot enough) processing it IS

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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2014, 07:05:PM »
Yes
Ngb it was cannabis as well I know that for a fact.

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2014, 07:06:PM »
Are you talking about the Caravan burglary when you say job?

There is no evidence Jeremy was being watched by police of any kind until after the murders when they came to suspect him. 

Some people are claiming without any evidence to back up their claims that police definitely would have been watching him prior to the murders because of neighbors complained that he was growing drugs.  I doubt  aneighbor;s complain would result in his phone being tapped and him being followed aorund and there is no evidence that such occurred.

No I was not


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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2014, 07:10:PM »
a small ammount for own use, back garden style, seems small fry to get special branch involved. and phone taps are home office controled so not given out without good reason. if crop theft related to drugs us was the problem how come MAFF wernt involved it was their licence?
all seems a bit cloak and dagger to me. this is an awful tradgedy without  getting theories of organised crime into the mix
Wilf you will just have to take my word on this one. But those who were involved in the Rettendon murders are here around Maldon now. They are organised gangs who have moved down from London's East End and are controlling the drug trafficking here right now. I believe that something is going to kick off soon.

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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2014, 07:14:PM »
Maybe it was the opium poppies that were the attraction. They were worth money if grown for the pharmas in the manufacture of medicines,etc.
There were a few notorious drug gangs around at that time too.


Extracting opium from the poppies and turning it into morphine – or heroin – is so complex and expensive that growers are confident the flowers will not be pilfered by enterprising drug dealers.

The opium poppy, Papaver somniferum, was first grown commercially on British farms in 2002 and is a different species to the common wild red poppy which contains no morphine at all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1028504/The-opium-fields-England--heroin-producing-poppies-grown-make-NHS-pain-relief-drugs.html

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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014, 07:18:PM »
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2939.msg104299.html#msg104299

on this link there is mention of a photo of a cannabis plant - bit random.

Also I seem to remember Mike posted a document that showed the surveilance

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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2014, 07:25:PM »
 Just noticed that Nevilles' watch was a Cartier one. Jeremy would have whizzed that and sold it if he'd been at WHF that night,. Cartier goods demand excellent prices,being that he( " was a greedy pig ".)
It would have gone straight in his pocket !

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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2014, 07:50:PM »
who was MCclean - mentioned twice on the list  IV and letter from page to McClean?

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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2014, 09:02:PM »
Just noticed that Nevilles' watch was a Cartier one. Jeremy would have whizzed that and sold it if he'd been at WHF that night,. Cartier goods demand excellent prices,being that he( " was a greedy pig ".)
It would have gone straight in his pocket !

He couldn't afford to take Nevill's wallet or any of his parent's jewelry because it needed ot look like Sheila killed them not a robbery. He would get eveyrhting thye own down the road so had no need to grab anything at the time of the murders. 
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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2014, 09:13:PM »
He couldn't afford to take Nevill's wallet or any of his parent's jewelry because it needed ot look like Sheila killed them not a robbery. He would get eveyrhting thye own down the road so had no need to grab anything at the time of the murders.





Someone else beat him to it in the end,so he may as well have half-hinched it.
Half of what was at the farmhouse no-one else knew about so it needn't have looked like a robbery.
I notice that nobody came forthwith after the murders with any mention of the watch ?

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« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2014, 09:23:PM »




Someone else beat him to it in the end,so he may as well have half-hinched it.
Half of what was at the farmhouse no-one else knew about so it needn't have looked like a robbery.
I notice that nobody came forthwith after the murders with any mention of the watch ?
Lookout. What happens after any death is that the relatives go to the house to take what valuables there are. The main reason for this is that those valuables, whether they be antiques or jewellery are not included in the estate. The reason for that is obvious. Death duties. The relatives acted no different when it came to WHF. Jeremy was also the same. He also removed stuff. They all did. No one wants to pay death duties. Why shout the state get what was not theirs?

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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2014, 10:07:PM »
Lookout. What happens after any death is that the relatives go to the house to take what valuables there are. The main reason for this is that those valuables, whether they be antiques or jewellery are not included in the estate. The reason for that is obvious. Death duties. The relatives acted no different when it came to WHF. Jeremy was also the same. He also removed stuff. They all did. No one wants to pay death duties. Why shout the state get what was not theirs?





I agree,Grahame. I did the same so far as I could anyway,otherwise it would have looked suspicious if the place had been stripped bare. ;D ;D
As things stood,the death duties were still stiff,,on top of everything else.