garden crops

[nugnug]

I agree - in those days it would be very handy to add to the "character assassination"

an to that charge i don't think hes got any claim of innocence.

so i am rather surprised that wasn't biged up.

[lookout]

 Doesn't make him a murderer though.

[nugnug]

no but i thought they would charged him with it while they were looking for evidence to charge him with murder handy bit of character assassination.

rather funny they never thought of that.

[scipio_usmc]

no but i thought they would charged him with it while they were looking for evidence to charge him with murder handy bit of character assassination.

rather funny they never thought of that.

Prior bad acts must at least be indictments if not convictions in order to be used unless there were some direct relation to the crime.  For instance if it were documented that the fight witesses between Jeremy and Nevill had to do with Nevill growing drugs then the drug issue could come in through the witness to the fight testifying about such.  But in reality the witness didn't know what the fight was over so no issue was raised at all for said fight.

You can't just say look he grew drugs so he is a bad seed and likely guilty of murder.  Bad acts have to be used for nuanced purposes and brought in, in nuanced ways like the potential example I gave. 

[nugnug]

they dident need them to be admissable in court they just had to get it in the papers.


if a jurer has had read of it in a newspaper then the damage is done.

[ngb1066]

Wasn´t it opium and not cannabis?

Yes

[nugnug]

so that would be even more damaging.

[lookout]

Also used in the manufacturing of heroin.

[Jan]

I am not sure from reading a bit further whether it was specifically JB that was being watched? was it not to do with the theft of the crops in general ? So did they suspect it was an inside job or outside job and WHF was just being watched in general ?

[Alias]

They used to have those dried opium plants at florists here - they were for flower decorations. Youngsters would buy them and boil the "heads" into "tea", which gave a mild opium effect. They are prohibited now - the authorities found out about this.
Can´t help wondering if Sheila and Jeremy would have done the same with the crops readily available to them at the farm?!

[scipio_usmc]

I am not sure from reading a bit further whether it was specifically JB that was being watched? was it not to do with the theft of the crops in general ? So did they suspect it was an inside job or outside job and WHF was just being watched in general ?

Are you talking about the Caravan burglary when you say job?

There is no evidence Jeremy was being watched by police of any kind until after the murders when they came to suspect him. 

Some people are claiming without any evidence to back up their claims that police definitely would have been watching him prior to the murders because of neighbors complained that he was growing drugs.  I doubt  aneighbor;s complain would result in his phone being tapped and him being followed aorund and there is no evidence that such occurred.

[wilf]

a small ammount for own use, back garden style, seems small fry to get special branch involved. and phone taps are home office controled so not given out without good reason. if crop theft related to drugs us was the problem how come MAFF wernt involved it was their licence?
all seems a bit cloak and dagger to me. this is an awful tradgedy without  getting theories of organised crime into the mix

[Alias]

a small ammount for own use, back garden style, seems small fry to get special branch involved. and phone taps are home office controled so not given out without good reason. if crop theft related to drugs us was the problem how come MAFF wernt involved it was their licence?
all seems a bit cloak and dagger to me. this is an awful tradgedy without  getting theories of organised crime into the mix

I have to agree with you here. A few cannabis plants in a back yard would be a matter for the local police, nothing more.

[lookout]

 Maybe it was the opium poppies that were the attraction. They were worth money if grown for the pharmas in the manufacture of medicines,etc.
There were a few notorious drug gangs around at that time too.

[grahameb]

What canabis was there at WHF and who was moving it? WHF was licenced to grow drugs for medical use but was this canabis? the licence would surely have had provision for possible criminal exploitstion? there are lots of other madical drugs grown  digitalis for example.  am I missing something?
 there was a field full of canabis grown near one of my walks it had NO street value as it had NO mind altering effect. it was for its fiber use in a type of spray plastering in the building industry. mind you stopped you in your tracks to see acres of it

Yes it was cannabis. But I'm not prepared to divulge my source, because they told me in confidence.